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Why You Can Not Kill a Virus
youtube.com/watch?v=EADzWlbSdVM&fea ... e=youtu.be

A good video about vitamins/minerals. 5 minutes. First half explains mechanism of viruses, second half talks about Vitamin D, Zinc & Selenium. We already take Vit D3, and we get selenium through foods. We've added 25mg of zinc per day.

The zinc prevents viruses from replicating inside your cells, but it can't pass through cell walls. Chloroquine helps it do that. So does quercetin. It comes in supplement form, but we figure we get enough through diet.

Michael Savage talked about quercetin on his show yesterday (3/30/20).

tunein.com/podcasts/Conservative-Talk/T ... =140818176

He's got degrees in biology, botany and whatnot. At about 52:00 he talks about quercetin. We eat enough of the foods he mentions (dark fruits, capers, olive oil), that we won't take quercetin as a supplement. But with the foods and the new zinc supplement, we should be better protected against viral infection now. ALL viruses. And all we had to do was add 25mg of cheap zinc to our daily intake.

It's worth looking into folks.


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Please tell me you aren't advocating some sort of protective measure that essentially advises to "pop a zinc pill and go about your business during this pandemic"



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Each state should have discretion though I'd think.

This is especially true when the POTUS is incompetent, right? Fortunately, Maryland's governor Larry Hogan is doing a great job. He's definitely being more proactive than what is coming from the feds. Our nation desperately wants a good leader, but Trump ain't it.

My wife has very Coronavirus-like symptoms. She said last night that she felt very cold and it turns out she has a low-grade fever and is starting to feel lethargic. We've been very good at not going out, but we went to the grocery store once last week and again on Monday. She and I are both healthy. The plan is to just stay home until she gets better. No need to get tested unless one of us starts having serious symptoms.


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Did you take some of the recommended precautions before you went out to the store?

Damn, here's hoping for the best.. The odds are in your favor though.



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After 2 weeks of working from home, I go back to work on Monday. I am not happy about interacting with 20 - 50 people in a manufacturing plant. Not sure I can quite afford to resign and retire, but I also don't want to bring death home to my asthmatic wife. I take zinc & Vit D and trying to find someone to sew a mask or two, but all that won't cut it. I can't imagine what grocery store cashiers or nurses at Covid hospitals are going through.



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I too have been worried about my history of asthma. For the most part my asthma was essentially allergy related and something I "outgrew" as an adult. I know there are different grades of asthma based on the layman research I did over the past few weeks when this all hit the fan.
I know some people live with it on a weekly basis and have prescribed inhalers. That seems much more severe than what I have experienced in my lifetime.

Nevertheless I still am really concerned about the severity of this virus, as it is known to have the potential to completely blow up respiratory systems. That's incredibly scary.


I too would be worried about going back to work. So far I've been very fortunate and have been able to work from home.
I've been given clearance by my superiors to stay home "until this all blows over"

Good fortune to you. This is some scary shit. The only thing that's kept me from constantly being in a vicious mental circle of fear is my attempt to always try to keep in mind that so much of the data we see regularly on the internet lacks data context.
I keep telling myself that as long as I remain self quarantined as much as I can and perform the necessary frequent hand-washing, etc, the odds are that I likely won't catch this devil.



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it blew my mind to see these people I know walking right up to me, face to face, to have happy discussions. Naturally, I backed up a bit, and they scowled at me.

To some people, it's a challenge. They demand to know who's taking this stupidity seriously. They want to know if you're one of the crazies. And I'm not sure what to think...

Sorry for the offense, but the people who've done this are Republicans. I know... I live in a town of 3 thousand. It shouldn't be political, but for some strange reason, the memetics of this are entrenched based on political affiliation.

If this flattens and halts in the next day or two, I'm going to be a die-hard republican. because there's something with the math that I'm missing.

Is Trump stupid? Are Republicans stupid? What am I missing? Are the internet algorithms preventing me from seeing the stupidity of Democrats? I see all the hatred from both sides and dig deep, and it's always the Republican side that I disagree with... I'm uncertain as always.


Chris O'Connor was saying that Fox kept up the "hoax" line for long enough that many of its viewers, often older Republicans who are at high risk, took that as their gospel faith. The right wing dream of liberty involves a big injection of fantasy which confers immunity to the intrusion of facts.

In case you are not totally terrified of this virus, read this description of what it is like living with someone who was fairly young and fit (56yo) but is not quite bad enough to go to hospital.

This report explains why you should wear a mask.


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Did you take some of the recommended precautions before you went out to the store?


Grocery shopping last week, we we made sure not to touch our faces and washed our hands when we got home. We also had hand sanitizer in the car. On Monday, we wore gloves (though almost no one else was wearing protective anything). We also transferred all of our groceries to our own bags and discarded the plastic bags and gloves before getting in the car, then used hand sanitizer. So we were careful, but perhaps too little too late. If five days is the average incubation period, my wife was likely exposed last week, not this past Monday.

We're self-quarantined now, but if we were to go out again we would wear something protective over our faces in addition to the measures described above. I can't be sure that my wife has coronavirus or not, but with a fever that is our assumption. It spiked yesterday at 101.9 and she started taking Tylenol. Though I have certainly been exposed I'm still taking great care to wash my hands a lot and not touch my face. Because it's quite possible the amount of exposure to coronavirus matters a great deal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/opin ... e=Homepage

I agree, this shit is pretty scary. Stay home for as long as possible.


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Adam Schiff wants to convene a 9/11-type inquiry after the virus has run its course. This would be a total-level exam of the response of the government and agencies--of Trump, Congress, and agencies responsible for preparedness. It's a good idea to not to get into recriminations now. Fight the virus first. From what I've read, we need to go back pre-Trump to get to the real roots of the deterioration of government infrastructure. Maybe a dose of humility will do us good. Other governments were much better than we were. Let's learn from them.



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In other news:

I noticed that Amazon has removed reviews of hand sanitizers. Not that they're easy to order, but I've been monitoring the stock closely.

is this just what i'm seeing or wtf? They're used to be lots of reviews and the ingredients were also available to look at.



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I noticed that Amazon has removed reviews of hand sanitizers. Not that they're easy to order, but I've been monitoring the stock closely.

is this just what i'm seeing or wtf? They're used to be lots of reviews and the ingredients were also available to look at.


So are these hand sanitizers still available? Maybe reviews of hand sanitizer are too subjective to be of much value. Or Amazon discovered some fake reviews and deleted the whole bunch?

WHO recommends a minimum of 60 percent alcohol, so percentage of alcohol is relevant.


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CDC recommends the use of alcohol-based hand sanitizers with greater than 60% ethanol or 70% isopropanol as the preferred form of hand hygiene in healthcare settings, based upon greater access to hand sanitizer.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tizer.html

There's the exact recommendation from CDC. (Keep spreading that info around. Some local yokel is actually recommending "Strong Acidic water of 2.5 PH" as a natural hand sanitizer. I've also seen it recommended as a mouthwash.)

Um....If the product meets the CDC criteria, what do you need a review for? Scent? Luxuriousness of the moisturizing additives? Splortiness of the plunger cachunker? "OMG glad I didn't order THAT one, the splorty factor is below average!"

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CDC recommends the use of alcohol-based hand sanitizers with greater than 60% ethanol or 70% isopropanol as the preferred form of hand hygiene in healthcare settings, based upon greater access to hand sanitizer.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tizer.html

There's the exact recommendation from CDC. (Keep spreading that info around. Some local yokel is actually recommending "Strong Acidic water of 2.5 PH" as a natural hand sanitizer. I've also seen it recommended as a mouthwash.)

Um....If the product meets the CDC criteria, what do you need a review for? Scent? Luxuriousness of the moisturizing additives? Splortiness of the plunger cachunker? "OMG glad I didn't order THAT one, the splorty factor is below average!"

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It was just a comment.. Something I found to be odd, that's all. And it's the listed ingredients (specifically the alcohol content) that I was interested in.
Makes sense a removal of the comments would be a good thing to do at a time like this, but the solution content? That used to be available to read but isn't as far as I can tell.

And I know what the CDC recommends. Thanks



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Let's all not forget this "preliminary" investigative analysis the WHO announced on January 14, 2020


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Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus identified in Wuhan China



https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunt ... ronavirus/


Frankly, China should never be used as a trusted source for anything so vitally important.

We can finger point all day, lads.. But now isn't really the time.



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'I Think This Is The Beginning of The End of The Pandemic': Doc Claims Chloroquine Is Highly Effective
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61345

Half of what's reported about the pandemic by the mainstream media is BS. CBS tried to convince you that New York hospitals were overrun with patients. They showed footage of an emergency room in Italy and said it was New York:

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CBS Fake News: Uses Footage Of Italian Emergency Room To Show Conditions In New York
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NBC and CNN did the same thing awhile back with a BS story about measles. They photoshopped a picture of a child to make it look like it had the disease:

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Big government wants to force vaccines on you, and that should scare the hell out of you. Say no to the needle or say goodbye.

The people who own the world are trying to get as much mileage out of this pandemic as they can. We're going to see more pandemics in the future, and during each we'll lose a few more rights. In either this one or the next they'll do away with paper money. If you're scared enough to hide in your closet, then you'll be scared enough to hand over your cash. And you know, maybe those old paper books should be burned too:

Banknotes may be spreading coronavirus, WHO warns
daily-sun.com/post/466801/Banknotes-may ... -WHO-warns
(The World Health Organization is one of the most corrupt entities on the planet. Don't believe ANYTHING it says.)

In the video below a Canadian talks about the planned destruction of the middle class and small business.

CIVIL UNREST IS COMING As Retailers Board Up Their Shops! Get Ready For “ORDER OUT OF CHAOS”!
investmentwatchblog.com/civil-unrest-is ... -of-chaos/

The video's on target. Neither crony capitalism nor communism can tolerate competition from a robust middle class, so this PLANdemic is being used to destroy small competitors. First there was the shutdown of virtually all small business, and now there will be looting. Slash and burn.

Since the Shelter in Fear campaign is going so well, we'll probably be told to stop speaking in public:

CORONAVIRUS can spread just by talking to someone
thesun.co.uk/news/11168911/coronavirus- ... rse-ebola/

So are you going to STFU when you're standing with your toes on the line in the supermarket? If you give up your right to speak, then you deserve whatever else they impose on you.

A couple of days ago the weasel Dr. Fauci said that deaths in the US could range from 100k to 240k. This was after he told us that 2.2 million would die in agonizing pain. He said the new estimate could be in the lower range if we adhere to social distancing. They're trying to do some ass coverage here. The ChiCom germ isn't killing as many as they claimed it would in the beginning, so they'll need an explanation afterwards. The explanation will be that we all behaved in a suitably craven manner.

At some point each of us will have to draw a personal line. And then we'll have to demand that the drastic steps taken for the temporary crisis be rolled back. The snake Fauci is already saying that the ChiCom flu will be around forever, so I guess he envisions us living from now on standing in coffin-sized boxes taped out on the floors of stores. We're being flimflammed, people. The numbers they feed us are in constant flux so that they can keep us away from our jobs. The global banks are trying to crash the world's economy so that they can take possession of everything, including us. Don't let them do it. Boost your immune system and get back to your old life ASAP.

EDIT: Now that that's out of my system--masks. When I have to do dusty field work I use a bandanna as a mask. Fold it corner to corner, into a triangle, then tie the two ends together at the back of your head. The tip that's dangling can be knotted under the chin, to form a cup over it. A very effective, double-thickness mask. But the thing is, viruses tend to enter through the eye, mostly when people scratch them with their fingers. Or that's what my doctor told me years ago. He said that he goes from flu season to flu season without getting sick, and it's because he scratches his eyes with the back of his wrist. Good luck to everyone. This virus has an HIV component, and as with HIV, people aren't dying from the virus so much as from underlying illnesses. The body can fight just so much at once.


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