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A simple google search for "chart of excess deaths" proves you wrong KS.

Did 150,000 people more than last year end up having a heart attack?

You don't know how to parse information.


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KindaSkolarly, plead watch this and then comment:




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A simple google search for "chart of excess deaths" proves you wrong KS.

Did 150,000 people more than last year end up having a heart attack?

You don't know how to parse information.


Check out the video I just posted and especially starting at 5:20. You're absolutely correct that the excess death rate proves KS wrong.

Here is the scary reality of the situation. The excess death rate EXCEEDS the number of reported COVID-19 deaths so either more people have died from the virus than is being reported or people are dying more often than expected from suicides, homicides and other things during this pandemic.



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I don't see a link to a video. Could be my browser, but I don't see it.

The extra deaths are from not attending to everyday medical issues. When the fear campaign was launched against the US, we were told that all available hospital beds would be needed for the virus that would kill 3-4% of us. So Americans avoided hospitals and doctors. Children missed their chemotherapy and died. Adults not addressing chest pains died. Plus there were the suicides--of sick people and of those driven to their breaking points by being unnecessarily quarantined.

Anyway, the CDC just TOLD us that only 9200 people have died from Covid. They can't make the truth any more plain. PLUS, the chief leftist propaganda rag, the New York Times, reported yesterday that 90% of the positive tests for Covid are wrong:

New York Times Estimates 90% of ‘Positive’ COVID Test Results Really Are Negative!
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needtoknow.news/2020/09/yikes-new-york- ... -negative/

Many people question whether the Covid-19 virus even exists. In the above piece Jon Rappoport reiterates that the virus was never properly isolated and identified. The tests are for a piece of RNA that is THOUGHT to have come from a new virus. Rappoport and others have written extensively on the topic.

The people in charge know that the Covid business is bullshit.

Nancy Pelosi is branded a hypocrite for breaking COVID rules to get a blowout at a closed San Francisco salon
(Hair salons are "shuttered" in San Francisco, but Lugosi went to get her hair done anyway. Didn't wear a mask, didn't "social distance." And she's in her eighties, a "high-risk" category. If things are so dangerous, then why did she place herself in a dangerous situation? Because she knows Covid = bullshit.)
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What we know about the "pandemic" so far is this: Bill Gates held a drill with the Chinese Communists simulating a coronavirus outbreak just before the Wuhan virus hit the headlines. The controlled media around the world said doom was upon us, and the already fragile world economy was shut down. At the same time, Black Lives Matter, Inc (an admitted Marxist organization), began pushing for a restructuring of capitalist society. As part of their strategy they're burning out small businesses. Marxist revolutions throughout history have targeted independent business. In the US, leftist governors and mayors have enabled rioters, while saying that the law-abiding need to keep their social distance. It's painfully obvious now what's going on. Covid is a smokescreen for a violent attack against our way of life.

But people see things more clearly each day.

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Post Re: Coronavirus
You really should try again to watch the video. You should be able to find it on zdoggmd.com. As for the extra deaths being explainable by suicide, drug overdoses, etc., it shouldn't be difficult to show the proof of that, if it's there.



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KS here is the link. Please watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

You're using the same browser as I am so the browser is not causing you to not see the video. Maybe you have a plug-in that is blocking it. Either way I just provided the direct link.


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I'd like to know what the counter argument is to KS's "New York Times Estimates 90% of ‘Positive’ COVID Test Results Really Are Negative!"

If this is true it's a HUGE deal. Yes, huge said in a Trump voice.



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The headline is misleading. It's not that the tests are negative, but that they are so sensitive that they pick up on miniscule amounts of the virus. Basically, many people testing positive have the virus, but it's a negligible amount.


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It seems then that they should not only give a positive or negative result but also if positive the amount of virus in the body. This new development (there are new developments almost daily) doesn't seem to impact the end result of this being a genuine pandemic that has and continues to kill lots of people.



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There seems to be something called a "cycle threshold" that could be reported. It tells how many times the Polymerase Chain Reaction process has to cycle in order to reach a decisive threshold.

PCR is created precisely to amplify the amounts of DNA or RNA it finds, so if it is picking up on insignificant viral loads, that should probably affect the public health policy on the subject. I don't think, though, that the "amount" of infection can be reported directly - just the number of cycles.

That's just from reading the article, with a little PCR background thrown in.



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I got through to the video, Chris, and I watched it, most of it. That guy is so malevolent. Look at his toothy grin when he's talking about death. Bill Gates does the same thing. The thought of death makes them smile. They can't help themselves.

The guy in the video says that 6% does not mean 6%. Orwell's science in 1984 taught the same thing. He argues that if Covid is anywhere on the death certificate, then that should probably be the cause of death.

When flu vaccines first became available, the govt and big pharma needed scary numbers to justify annual shots. So they increased the number of flu deaths with an accounting trick. Pneumonia deaths miraculously dropped, and flu deaths spiked. What was a pneumonia death one day was a flu death the next. The exact same thing happened with the Wuhan virus. When it spiked back in April, pneumonia deaths bottomed out. The scam worked back in the flu days, but this time (thanks to the internet) the Wuhan scammers got caught. And since then they've been scrambling to come up with more believable lies. But they're not that creative, and their bumbling has led to a loss of public trust.

The best thing to happen lately is that more accurate counting methods have been imposed on the CDC. Also, the mainstream media is having to report that the tests are bullshit. If they DON'T report on the bullshit, then their entire Covid Fear campaign will collapse. So things are improving.

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CDC has a simple weekly graph of actual versus expected deaths for the US - at https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm

The graph is titled Weekly number of deaths (from all causes). It shows that the actual death rate spiked to a top estimate of 22,500 above the expected rate in early April, and has since settled to about 7,000 extra deaths per week. Here is the data.

The CDC data show that between 155,000 and 193,500 Americans would not have died so far this year if there had been no pandemic and the same death patterns as in recent years had occurred.


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The guy in the video says that 6% does not mean 6%. Orwell's science in 1984 taught the same thing.

Well I watched the video too, and all I can say in response is that this "Orwell" comment shows that KindaSkolarly is a total moron.

The video simply explains that the 6% is the number of death certificates that only list COVID 19. That does not at all suggest COVID was not the main cause for other deaths. Obviously, except to morons, the virus kills people by giving them pneumonia and heart failure etc. When doctors put these conditions on the death certificate as well as COVID, as per normal medical practice, this generally reflects the fact that the virus caused these conditions. But all these certificates are not part of the famous 6%.

The 6% listed as only COVID does not mean that only 6% of deaths were caused by COVID. This is very simply and clearly explained in the video, in terms a child could understand. Wilful failure to understand this simple arithmetic is itself Orwellian.

For a moron like KS to misuse Orwell in this way is the height of ironic stupidity. Orwell said the totalitarian state insists that you believe things contrary to all evidence and logic, such as that 2+2=5. That is totally the opposite from this doctor explaining that death certificates listing only COVID are way fewer than total US deaths caused by the pandemic, which is now pushing 200,000 as explained in the CDC data linked in my previous comment above.


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The headline is misleading. It's not that the tests are negative, but that they are so sensitive that they pick up on miniscule amounts of the virus. Basically, many people testing positive have the virus, but it's a negligible amount.



Its significance is that if most positives are actually of no consequence because the amount is so negligible, draconian social measures might be doing more harm than the disease itself.

Most people dismissive of this are in some way living a more privileged life than people that have lost jobs and their businesses because of draconian lockdown measures.

But carry on, Mr. Empathizer



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