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You're not capable of objective analysis, Tulip; you're a fascist. A true believer in Al Gore's carbon banking system, and now it seems you've taken up the cause of Bill Gates' vaccine kill-off. I'll never understand your kind of cult thinking, but I'll defend to the death your right to gibber. It's a shame though what you've done to the children. I wouldn't want that on my conscience.

At any rate, for the third or fourth time now, here's the CDC saying that positive Wuhan tests could be on account of the common cold:

"A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold."

cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/s ... rview.html

Deny it again, Science Boy.

Once again The Powers That Be are dividing the world up into warring camps. Before long there will be those who test positive for Covid, and those who don't. And those who don't will demand a vaccine. They will be terrified of people who've had the common cold.


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2) The CDC said that since the Wuhan virus and the common cold are both coronaviruses, they will both give positive results for the Covid test. So if you've ever had a cold, you'll test positive for Covid.

Just to repeat the appalling lie that generated the latest piece of febrility. Yes, CDC said there are some false positive COVID antibody tests, for people who have recovered, which result from cold antibodies. But NO, that does NOT mean "if you've ever had a cold, you'll test positive for Covid", an absurd claim that would result in tests reporting a 100% positive COVID rate. As well, this is just for some cases of the antibody test, not for current active virus presence.

What CDC actually said included the following
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Except in instances in which viral testing is delayed, antibody tests should not be used to diagnose a current COVID-19 infection. An antibody test may not show if you have a current COVID-19 infection because it can take 1–3 weeks after infection for your body to make antibodies....A positive [antibody] test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.


The last quoted sentence has been ripped from context and distorted to produce the mad and dangerous myths that KS is using Booktalk to promulgate. This is a textbook model example of twisting a reliable source to support an opposing and predetermined and completely baseless and dangerous political agenda. But hey, why listen to the CDC, when the great factator explains things so simply: 99% of coronavirus cases are “totally harmless”. It all reminds me of the famous quote from the best Marxist philosopher "Those are my principles If you don't like them I have others."


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The study recently claiming positive effects of hydroxycloroquine plus AZT (the "Ford" study) is apparently tainted by non-randomization. As a result we can't tell if it's valid, and at least one likely confounding factor was identified.

Meanwhile, two of the three "negative" studies were based on a study whose raw data cannot be verified. So we still don't know.



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...Bill Gates' vaccine kill-off....

That's just plain imbecilic.



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The Covid scam is faltering. Each day the numbers are shown to be more of a lie. It's just not as deadly as the Gates cabal had hoped. They TRIED to sell it. NBC tried. Their expert virologist Dr. Joseph Fair apparently made multiple broadcasts claiming he was sick with the Wuhan virus. All a lie. During the course of his extended lie he tested negative five times, yet he kept reporting... Read it yourself. This man works for NBC, one of the "trusted sources."

It Would Appear NBC Buried Some Key Details About Their Medical Expert’s ‘Coronavirus Battle’
townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/07 ... e-n2572308

CNN did the same thing. Chris Cuomo reported for weeks from his basement, saying he was quarantined because he had the virus. He didn't:

Chris Cuomo and CNN stage a fake coronavirus resurrection
washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/chris-cu ... surrection

Cuomo's brother is the governor of New York state. He forced virus-infected patients into nursing homes and as a result New York outstripped all other states and countries in the world in the number of deaths.

Florida has been fudging their numbers lately:

COVID Testing Scandal: 333 Labs Report 100% of People Testing Positive for Coronavirus
infowars.com/covid-testing-scandal-nume ... ronavirus/

High numbers are vital if the scam is to be kept going. Perpetual police state lockdown is the goal, so the numbers have to stay high. Deaths have fallen dramatically, so there's a desperate push now to test people and report on 'new cases.' It doesn't matter that only 8% test positive, and 99% of those show few if any symptoms. The important thing is to peddle fear so that the world's economy can be destroyed. But the pandemic is running out of steam:

COVID-19 May Soon Lose Status as an 'Epidemic' Under CDC Guidelines
pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-marg ... es-n609729

Dr. Anthony Fauci's behavior in all of this has been especially despicable. The virus is treatable with steroids or hydroxychloroquine, but he has worked to block them. The treatments would conflict with his vaccine:

New Docs: NIH Owns Half of Moderna Vaccine
childrenshealthdefense.org/news/new-doc ... a-vaccine/

An interesting video below. The Truth Behind the Mask, by Greg Reese. It'll be pulled down by the police-staters, so here's a general search for the title:

duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=the+truth+ ... amp;ia=web

In the video Reese points out that the lockdown and mandatory mask orders seem to be cult indoctrination.
* The initiate is isolated (stay at home orders)
* The initiate's routine is disrupted (no job to go to, no travel allowed, children forced to stay home and so on)
* Initiates are made to look the same (masks). This strips people of their unique identities, and the loss of the old identity leads to the assumption of a new one.
* The initiate is subjected to trauma that causes confusion and anxiety. This creates a frame of mind where the initiate is open to suggestion, and a new way of thinking is introduced (the "New Normal," where science and reason no longer matter, only obedience).


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The Covid scam is faltering. Each day the numbers are shown to be more of a lie. It's just not as deadly as the Gates cabal had hoped. They TRIED to sell it. NBC tried. Their expert virologist Dr. Joseph Fair apparently made multiple broadcasts claiming he was sick with the Wuhan virus. All a lie. During the course of his extended lie he tested negative five times, yet he kept reporting... Read it yourself. This man works for NBC, one of the "trusted sources."

It Would Appear NBC Buried Some Key Details About Their Medical Expert’s ‘Coronavirus Battle’
townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/07 ... e-n2572308

CNN did the same thing. Chris Cuomo reported for weeks from his basement, saying he was quarantined because he had the virus. He didn't:

Chris Cuomo and CNN stage a fake coronavirus resurrection
washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/chris-cu ... surrection

Cuomo's brother is the governor of New York state. He forced virus-infected patients into nursing homes and as a result New York outstripped all other states and countries in the world in the number of deaths.

Florida has been fudging their numbers lately:

COVID Testing Scandal: 333 Labs Report 100% of People Testing Positive for Coronavirus
infowars.com/covid-testing-scandal-nume ... ronavirus/

High numbers are vital if the scam is to be kept going. Perpetual police state lockdown is the goal, so the numbers have to stay high. Deaths have fallen dramatically, so there's a desperate push now to test people and report on 'new cases.' It doesn't matter that only 8% test positive, and 99% of those show few if any symptoms. The important thing is to peddle fear so that the world's economy can be destroyed. But the pandemic is running out of steam:

COVID-19 May Soon Lose Status as an 'Epidemic' Under CDC Guidelines
pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-marg ... es-n609729

Dr. Anthony Fauci's behavior in all of this has been especially despicable. The virus is treatable with steroids or hydroxychloroquine, but he has worked to block them. The treatments would conflict with his vaccine:

New Docs: NIH Owns Half of Moderna Vaccine
childrenshealthdefense.org/news/new-doc ... a-vaccine/

An interesting video below. The Truth Behind the Mask, by Greg Reese. It'll be pulled down by the police-staters, so here's a general search for the title:

duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=the+truth+ ... amp;ia=web

In the video Reese points out that the lockdown and mandatory mask orders seem to be cult indoctrination.
* The initiate is isolated (stay at home orders)
* The initiate's routine is disrupted (no job to go to, no travel allowed, children forced to stay home and so on)
* Initiates are made to look the same (masks). This strips people of their unique identities, and the loss of the old identity leads to the assumption of a new one.
* The initiate is subjected to trauma that causes confusion and anxiety. This creates a frame of mind where the initiate is open to suggestion, and a new way of thinking is introduced (the "New Normal," where science and reason no longer matter, only obedience).


I had to capture this stupidity in case you try to delete it in a month or two. Or however long it takes for reality to hit you and leaving you full of regrets.


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I had to capture this stupidity in case you try to delete it in a month or two. Or however long it takes for reality to hit you and leaving you full of regrets.

I don't believe regret or admission of error is part of the QAnon philosophy. For we have already identified numerous errors in KS' past posts and he never admits being wrong, only comes back with a new batch of truth-challenged nonsense from right-wing conspiracy sites. As such, KS is being spoon fed like an infant incapable of feeding himself.


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I have no idea what the Qanon thing means. That's some CIA psyop. All I know is that you guys like to call names because you're intellectually lazy. In my last post I linked to 5 articles:
* The NBC in-house virologist did indeed run segments where he claimed to be infected with the Wuhan virus. It was all made up. It was a lie. There are a hundred stories about it on the internet.
* Chris Cuomo of CNN did exactly the same thing. There are a thousand stories about that embarrassment.
* Hundreds of labs were discovered to be mis-reporting their numbers on testing. Dozens of stories on that.
* Covid is about to lose its status as an epidemic according to CDC guidelines. Deaths are falling. Soon it will no longer be an epidemic, according to the guidelines. That's a fact as of this moment.
* Fauci and his organization own a significant share of the vaccine they're touting. Another fact.
That's 5 stories I linked to, all factual, but you guys say they're not. Fine. I'll toss out some more facts.

The vaccine that Fauci is pushing (he has financial interests in it) is getting good reviews:

Covid-19 vaccine hopes raised as trial of Moderna's experimental jab shows ALL 45 injected volunteers developed antibodies
dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8523249/ ... ponse.html

Of course it's getting good reviews. When you control the review process you can make any claim you want. But the problem with this vaccine is that it's not a vaccine at all. With vaccines you're given a little bit of the disease or one that's similar so that your body can manufacture antibodies. But this Moderna thing is an RNA experiment. From the above article:

"...When lab-manufactured pieces of mRNA are injected into people, the hope is that the cells would take in the genetic snippets, make viral proteins and trigger an immune response against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes Covid-19...."

So, "the hope is" that it will work. To insure against lawsuits they call it a vaccine because there is historically some liability protection against the damage that vaccines do. But this is not a vaccine. It goes into your body and changes your genetics, the same as cancer. If this Moderna toxin is pushed on the public, then you WILL see articles later about "unintended consequences" like deaths from shock, cancer, no telling what.

From the article again, where it talks about antibodies:

"...The team reported a dose-dependent effect, whereby the participants grew a larger antibody response the higher their vaccination dose was...."

From another article:

"...Bill Gates wants to skip animal testing for the covid vaccine. And he wants to go past normal vaccine techniques to a never been done before experiment with messenger RNA. We have heard press releases lately saying that vaccine test subjects are developing antibodies very rapidly. ... That does not sound like Good News to anyone familiar with what happened to the SARS vaccine. It's an effect called Enhancement where a vaccine develops antibodies and then the test subject comes into contact with the wild virus. And then the victim of experimental science gets really sick and dies or risk permanent injury...."

Bill Gates Smirked. Will People Die?
vidrebel.wordpress.com/2020/07/06/bill- ... eople-die/

From elsewhere in the article:

"...The Covid-19 virus was made in a lab. This is according to Dr Luc Montagnier who won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2008. Dr Francis Boyle who drafted the US Biological Weapons Act agreed – Covid-19 was made in a lab. ... The Spike protein was engineered from SARS into Covid. This allows it to enter human cells. 4 new sequences were engineered into Covid from the HIV virus including the GP 41 envelope which is the key for HIV to infect human bodies. ... In fact we know covid’s history. It began in a lab at the University of North Carolina but because it violated US law and there was a great need for plausible deniability the work was shifted to Wuhan China. That now infamous lab received a $3.7 million grant in 2014 from Dr Fauci, the NIH and President Obama to transform it into a completed bioweapon...."

You'll be asked to sign away your right to sue before you get your "vaccine." All of you will feel at that moment that something is wrong. But you'll probably go along with the herd and sign. THERE'S your herd immunity, from prosecution.

But in some good news, it looks as if Trump is rerouting the flow of Covid information within the U.S. government. The CDC used to get data from hospitals first, before the Dept of Health & Human Services, which meant HHS was a week late in getting the info. As of today (July 15) that's been reversed. Data from the hospitals will go to HHS first. The CDC has been "wrong" so often that you have to wonder if it's been accidentally on purpose. And their bad models and bad recommendations have had disastrous results. It appears that Trump is hoping to circumvent the career bureaucrats now and get the numbers to people who can best utilize them.


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Once again, we are seeing KS posting a lot of hysterical nonsense that anyone with half a brain can fact-check. I'll pick a couple at random.

KindaSkolarly wrote:
Fauci is pushing a vaccine because he stands to gain financially.

Many newspapers have fact-checked these claims and found them to be false. Do you have a source?

KindaSkolarly wrote:
Moderna's vaccine is not a vaccine but an "RNA experiment." . . . But the problem with this vaccine is that it's not a vaccine at all. With vaccines you're given a little bit of the disease or one that's similar so that your body can manufacture antibodies. But this Moderna thing is an RNA experiment.


Says who? Moderna's study was published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which describes it as an "mRNA Vaccine." According to Meriam-Webster dictionary, a vaccine is a "a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease."

In other words, it is absolutely a vaccine.

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The Covid scam is faltering. Each day the numbers are shown to be more of a lie. It's just not as deadly as the Gates cabal had hoped. They TRIED to sell it. NBC tried. Their expert virologist Dr. Joseph Fair apparently made multiple broadcasts claiming he was sick with the Wuhan virus. All a lie. During the course of his extended lie he tested negative five times, yet he kept reporting... Read it yourself. This man works for NBC, one of the "trusted sources."


So a couple of TV news personalities may have embellished or exaggerated their Covid-19 symptoms, and so the whole Cornoavirus pandemic is a scam? This is akin to saying, look it's snowing in Cleveland, therefore, climate change is a hoax. Or those who deny that the Holocaust happened, by focusing on trivial inconsistencies and ignoring the many thousands of overlapping and converging evidence that show conclusively that it did.

There is fundamental flaw in your thinking, KS. It's really quite sad to see. Your biases and errors have made you a dangerous idiot.


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* The NBC in-house virologist did indeed run segments where he claimed to be infected with the Wuhan virus. It was all made up. It was a lie. There are a hundred stories about it on the internet.

Sure, the man thought he had Coronavirus because he was very sick. Who cares? There’s no story here, other than you pretending it’s part of some vast conspiracy.

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* Chris Cuomo of CNN did exactly the same thing. There are a thousand stories about that embarrassment.

He had Covid, and he tested positive for antibodies after the fact. Are you trying to make a point?

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* Hundreds of labs were discovered to be mis-reporting their numbers on testing. Dozens of stories on that.

Except there’s nothing malicious here. The Florida labs that had a 100% positivity rate had minor mistakes here and there, but that’s being human. They didn’t report the negatives, which lead to the 100% positive rate. Take off the tinfoil hat.

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* Covid is about to lose its status as an epidemic according to CDC guidelines. Deaths are falling. Soon it will no longer be an epidemic, according to the guidelines. That's a fact as of this moment.

Fake news. We flattened the curve to the point where Covid “temporarily” was below pandemic thresholds, and that was a good thing. That’s the entire fucking purpose of lockdowns and masks. We WANT this pandemic to go away! But since then, numbers have jumped above the threshold because of dumbasses like you spouting false information and thinking it’s all a hoax. I mean really, here's your sign. :slap:

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* Fauci and his organization own a significant share of the vaccine they're touting. Another fact.

Not a fact. Fake news.

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That's 5 stories I linked to, all factual, but you guys say they're not. Fine. I'll toss out some more facts.


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What business he thinks he has citing any sources like the CDC, NBC, or whatever--I'll never understand. These are all examples of fake or deep state sources, according to his usual MO. He can't claim support from them when they conveniently reinforce his claims.



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I agree that NBC, CNN and the CDC are fake news. You have reporters pretending to be sick, fake numbers issued and so on. The numbers game is a scandal. Deaths are falling. The "epidemic" is over. As news of this spreads, you leftists will find it harder to continue with your Cult of the Mask. The Biden Burka needs to go.

Some more stories about the failure of the Plandemic:

Why Face Masks DON'T Work, According To SCIENCE (Ben Swann)
"So much debate over whether or not we should be wearing masks in order to fight C0VlD but multiple scientific studies over the past decade have already settled this question. Not only do medical masks not prevent the spread of virus, but a 1995 study proves that wearing a cloth mask can put you at greater risk for infection. Ben Swann breaks down the science."
nofacemask.blogspot.com/2020/07/why-fac ... ng-to.html

Moderna coronavirus vaccine causes side effects in over 50% of patients; antibodies disappear in 2-3 months, rendering the vaccine pointless
(This is the Fauci vaccine. He and Gates skipped the animal tests, and this is what happened. But they're pushing ahead anyway. Gates never vaccinated his three children, by the way. If vaccines are so good, why didn't he vaccinate? The other day he said he would help insure that plenty of his new Wonder Vaccine is set aside for the world's poor, and before that his wife said that blacks need to be at the head of the line. So you leftists can rest easy--the genocide seems to be chugging along).
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Deaths are falling.


Deaths are going back up.

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Why Face Masks DON'T Work, According To SCIENCE (Ben Swann)


Ben Swann, who purports to fact check the fact checkers, is constantly spewing fake news. Masks do work, confirmed by many studies from around the world.

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Moderna coronavirus vaccine causes side effects in over 50% of patients; antibodies disappear in 2-3 months, rendering the vaccine pointless


The sad part is that antibodies of people who recovered from Covid also go away after a few months in many cases. It's not just the vaccine, it's the nature of the disease. FYI - most "side effects" were typical to vaccines, such as pain at the injection site. Like, where they poke you with the needle.

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They aren't. They're mostly factual. The sources you cite are the fake news. Your whole universe is backwards, and you're so deep into it that there's no way out. Did you see above where I replied to your "facts", and you scored 0 out of 5? Wake up man.


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How gobsmacking strange it is to see anyone going on about "the plandemic," with cities having to park refrigerated semi-trailers near morgues to handle the overflow of corpses. Or that for some covid patients to be treated in ICUs, someone in the unit must first die.



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How gobsmacking strange it is to see anyone going on about "the plandemic," with cities having to park refrigerated semi-trailers near morgues to handle the overflow of corpses. Or that for some covid patients to be treated in ICUs, someone in the unit must first die.

Unless you're someone who thinks this was a "false flag" operation, not by a government perhaps, but the "Bill Gates cabal." Tinfoil hats for everyone!


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