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news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4289915.stmQuote:Row over Springer opera donationA cancer charity has refused a donation from Jerry Springer - The Opera after a religious group threatened to protest.Maggie's Centres said Christian Voice's contact prompted it to reject
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Good.Cutting of the nose to spite the face is exactly what Christians do.Is there not a secular charity fighting cancer?Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.I came to get down, I came to get down. So get out ya seat and jump around - House of PainHEY! Is that a ball in your court? - Mr. PI came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper
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According to CS's post, Maggie's is a secular organization.This is a pretty reprehensible example of a group attempting to use one platform in order to push an ethical and cultural agenda. One of the disappointing tendencies in contemporary religious organizations is that towards making its support of causes contingent on a tacit admittance of loyalty. Maggie's has basically admitted a willingness to conform to Christian Voice's cultural agenda in order to maintain the influx of contributions from a certain demographic (and it seems likely that said demographic is limited mostly to Christian Voice's readership itself).We could, incidentally, tie this instance back to Karen Armstrong's suggestion in "The Battle for God" that modern fundamentalist religious groups have assumed "progressive" tactics in their attempt to guard fundamental values. You see these sorts of strong arm tactics in secular industries all the time -- it's an off-shoot of capitalistic practice, specifically the emphasis placed on investment as a form of influence and power. What's particularly disheartening in this case is that it has been applied to a charitable organization, forcing the organization to make a choice based on an uncertain prediction as to where more money is likely to come from in the future. Sad stuff, and not very becoming of a publication presumably interested in both ethics and the well-fare of the ill.Nor does it seem particularly well thought through. What does Christian Voice or Christianity as a religion stand to gain from this? How was "Jerry Springer -- the Opera" likely to profit from their donation? Can Christian Voice really feel triumphant that "Jerry Springer" won't be getting that particular tax break at the end of the year? Even compared to other right-wing Christian agendas, Christian Voice comes off looking particularly un-savvy in this dour little episode.
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OOH! Sorry...I thought the charity WAS Christian Voices...Even more annoying now that I realize that!Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.I came to get down, I came to get down. So get out ya seat and jump around - House of PainHEY! Is that a ball in your court? - Mr. PI came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper
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Would this be any different if the Springer Opera group were Nazis and the Christian group were Jewish? Let us agree, there is no one single reality. Not upon this stage, not in this world, all is in the mind... imagination is the only truth. Because it cannot be contradicted except by other imaginations - Richard MathesonThere are no conclusive indications by which waking life can be distinguished from sleep - Rene Descartes
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Niall001: Would this be any different if the Springer Opera group were Nazis and the Christian group were Jewish?Given that neither Jerry Springer nor the Springer Opera have advocate or actually participated in the deaths of millions of Christians, I'm going to say yes: very different.
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Well, I was making a reference to neo-nazi types, like say the BNP. They haven't actually killed anyone as far as I know, but their views offend many people and they would especially offend Jewish people. Personally, I don't like what has happened, but its charity. I don't want it regulated by governments in any serious way. I think that there are probably circumstances under which I would refuse a donation if I did not like the source and perhaps even a circumstance under which I would attempt encourage other groups to refuse donations from groups which whose agendas I oppossed. Let us agree, there is no one single reality. Not upon this stage, not in this world, all is in the mind... imagination is the only truth. Because it cannot be contradicted except by other imaginations - Richard MathesonThere are no conclusive indications by which waking life can be distinguished from sleep - Rene Descartes
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