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Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir 
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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
I just got my copy of the Martian and watched the movie on the same day. I will refrain from comparing the two, I love the details and rich background and depth you can get out of a book. Movies are great because I can't wait sometimes to get to the punchline :)

I really like that the science seems plausible. The book I would have written (and did much research for and planning) would have been about colonizing Mars, so this may show my bias more than anything else. One thing that I do question though is their "dating" system. The book opens on Sol 6, meaning the 6th day after they landed and began their mission work, but then we find out that this is not the first mission that people were on Mars, so why isn't the dating system from the first day of the first mission on?


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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
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One thing that I do question though is their "dating" system. The book opens on Sol 6, meaning the 6th day after they landed and began their mission work, but then we find out that this is not the first mission that people were on Mars, so why isn't the dating system from the first day of the first mission on?


That's interesting, Sort of like a permanent Martian calendar. I don't have the answer, just a guess, but since there is no permanent independent colony it might just be simpler to keep dating on a mission by mission bases. It might be easier to convert day lengths to Earth days and time than creating a hole new calendar model, It may be just a matter of simplifying historical records here on Earth.



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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
That's a good point, but then when and if they colonize Mars in that universe, which ones will they commemorate? Will there be a Mark Watley Day commemorating the first and second grown life on Mars (bacteria and potatoes)?


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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
I'm not a science fiction fan, but I like to try different things. So I have finished reading about 100 pages and find this story somewhat believable. The detailed, technical and repetitious problem solving gets tiresome and I found myself tempted to skip paragraphs. His style of writing, the subtle humor, making the story unbelievably cheerful as Mr. Fix-it solves every problem, is making me read on. I would like to know more about his life on earth, perhaps some personal memories, family...more character development. Hoping to find that as the story develops...reading on!



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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
The first chapters are solid geek-ness. Watney is the ultimate DIY'er, painfully so in my view. Is there anything this guy can't fix? He deserves his own TV show.

Still, I agree that plausibility is key .. without that this story would be pure science fiction ... which would be ok if that's what you want, but the grounding in plausible science and technology takes this out of the realm of science fiction and turns it into a somewhat-realistic adventure story.

The way Weir dives into technology with barely a nod to 'character development' is interesting and somewhat unusual. But then this is a story about a guy stranded on Mars, not Buffalo, and science and technology are critical to his survival so I think Weir should be excused for focusing on that.

I'm about three quarter of the way through the book so I don't want to give things away, but I think its ok to say that this does become more of a human story as it progresses. I also like the humour, I think humour is one of the best ways to deal with difficult situations and crisis. And I think its one way we get to know Mark Watney.

I watched the author's video that was posted on another thread and it was helpful in understanding this book because its really clear how Andy Weir places himself on Mars through the book ... and specifically, not the first human on Mars, but perhaps the first human to die on Mars .. a clever and meaningful difference.



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Watney is the ultimate DIY'er, painfully so in my view.
Hahaha that's perfect! I am enjoying these parts very much, but I do agree that so far we aren't really getting to know our protagonist...in fact I feel that I know some of his crewmates better than I know him. I am looking forward to a time when I get to know him a little better, since I am supposed to care about his outcome. Right now I am happy watching him solve the puzzles. This kind of reads like a complicated puzzle style video game like Myst, or rather, like the walk through.


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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
Thinking on it, I found the book lacked any sort of stunning revelation, which is why "The Martian" will not find membership in the pantheon of historic must reads. Its pure pop culture fetishism. Even though I found The Martian to be an absolute joy to read, Even though my linked Andy Weir interview is, in my opinion one the best ever author interviews I have witnessed, The book itself is remarkable for its portrayal of the contextual mundane. A mundane (mundane in the sense that there is a routine aspect presented by the author as to concurrent missions to Mars) scientific journey to Mars goes awry (the drama). Its a revamp of an old story, Robinson Crusoe. Maybe the sequel will introduce us to a "sol Friday" character?, but then, the book will become far-out science fiction and not just an exciting story of what may be part of the actual near future.



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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
My favorite part of this book so far is the seeming plausibility of it all. I know if it really were that easy it would be fact not fiction, but it gives me hope. Space exploration and possible colonization really get my imagination going.


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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
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One thing that I do question though is their "dating" system. The book opens on Sol 6, meaning the 6th day after they landed and began their mission work, but then we find out that this is not the first mission that people were on Mars, so why isn't the dating system from the first day of the first mission on?


That's interesting, Sort of like a permanent Martian calendar. I don't have the answer, just a guess, but since there is no permanent independent colony it might just be simpler to keep dating on a mission by mission bases. It might be easier to convert day lengths to Earth days and time than creating a hole new calendar model, It may be just a matter of simplifying historical records here on Earth.


No question their Sol dating system is mission based ... perhaps this is merely astronaut convenience, makes sense, its difficult enough to stay alive on Mars without introducing complications ... or maybe it reflects the way we see the solar system ? in a human/earth centered, colonialistic way ? Its interesting that the 'count up' in Sols will actually turn into a 'count down' for Mark Watney.



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Maybe the sequel will be about the colonization of Mars. I would love that. Anybody else think it would be a good idea?



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Maybe the sequel will be about the colonization of Mars. I would love that. Anybody else think it would be a good idea?


Well in that case we'd have to find a partner for Mark Watney ... of course, if we can persuade Matt Damon to play his part in the sequel, there'd likely be a fair number of volunteers! :mrgreen:



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I would love to see it too. I wonder if Mark Watney even would want to go back to Mars though.


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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
I love the humor in this book. It was apparent in the movie also, but it looks like there are going to be many more opportunities for it in the book.



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Post Re: Chapters 1, 2 and 3 of "The Martian" by Andy Weir
"Where do I begin?" The graphic language makes one think, male locker-room talk, and indicates that it is a masculine person even before seeing his name Mark. I would ask the author "Who is he?" to learn whether I can understand his character well enough to empathize with his adventure on Mars. Even McGuyver showed enough of his human character to endear him to us.
The prose here seems like shorthand without much fleshing out of ideas and even less development of his hero. Maybe the author meant it to appear like scholarly investigative writing with a little human interest attached. BTO



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