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Brother Bob wrote:Don't insult my God or I will sick Him on you. I have done it before and won't hesitate to do it again. Stop means stop. You can disagree without being a total fool. No mas!
I'm pretty sure my god could beat up your god.


On a serious note, there's nothing wrong with insulting a god, but please be nice to each other. :|
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youkrst wrote: i shall fetch the pineapple of discipline :lol:


Big Big fan of South Park myself :-D
so far His wrath has consisted of a wonderful foot massage, some delicious sweet treats including peanut brittle, honeycomb and some amazing hazelnut brownies, and watching the new Goosebumps movie with my Wife and eldest Daughter, we quite enjoyed it.
The punishment fits the crime :P

Youkrst; would you say that your one time level of faith was as infantile (not certain if infantile is appropriate) as that of BT's esteemed brother bob?

I myself could never approach the level of study on either side that has been presented by the many BT participants.

Brother bobs target audience is that of an immature mind, its predatory in that sense.

I would not place Flann in that category, Flann defends his thoughts as well as I've seen, there's no crusading on Flann's part. Is there a difference between defending and crusading?

ETA: just a variation on a theme :) youkrst; I hope I haven't come off as impertinent, I wasn't queuing for a ride on the pineapple express :lol:
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As an outsider, (someone who has not studied the biblical aspect or the scientific aspect as well for that matter) only as a person who has followed the discussions on BT ,reading in a far less than level of scholarly manor it does seem to me that there is more compelling evidence for naturalism than supernaturalism, The supernaturalist certainly can locate holes in the various hypothesis and theorem of cosmological and organismal origin, but there is just that, holes. I'm finding the mythological debate equally fascinating in that, what is learned is that among the earliest science's was the study of constellation movement which makes perfect sense, star's to navigate and the planning of events.
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Taylor wrote:Brother bobs target audience is that of an immature mind, its predatory in that sense.
Brother Bob's message is indeed directed at only effective on unsophisticated thinkers but I don't think he's consciously targeting them. After all, here he is on BookTalk.org under the impression he is schooling us in all things God.

If he were consciously targeting the youth or unsophisticated thinkers I'd agree that his behavior were predatory. Instead, IMO Brother Bob is the unsophisticated thinker himself, and as the Dunning-Kruger Effect says, Brother Bob is under the illusion he is the superior thinker and is here to break through our biases and self-imposed ignorance.

To me Brother Bob makes me think of Flatland where 2 dimensional beings cannot comprehend anything beyond their 2 dimensional experience with reality.
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Chris:
Brother Bob's message is indeed directed at only effective on unsophisticated thinkers but I don't think he's consciously targeting them. After all, here he is on BookTalk.org under the impression he is schooling us in all things God.
You're right he has attempted the impossible of sorts, and of course the minds gathered here on B.T. are very sophisticated indeed, as too his schooling the heavy hitters, I find that a hard pill to swallow. I mean he can not possibly be that naïve can he? It seems to me he's using BT as a sort of batting cage in the hopes of not whiffing on those immature minds.
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BB's certainty pushing his book. "Pearls before pigs," was a bit funny.

What he's pushing here is a predatory mind set. And it's aimed at kids or adults all the same. It's the blind leading the blind sort of thing. He reminds me a lot of a type of school of thought at my Fundie boarding academy. The Preacher / Bible teachers did believe they held the spiritual high ground. The whole tactic of starting with something like the existence of morality (or the human perception of the existence of morality) and then craft a deceptive way of trying to bring that back to one and only one option - their particular interpretation of Jewish and Christian mythology.

There must be a God and that God must be the one described in the Bible.

Ta, Da!!!!

'I bring you reality, ladies and gents!'
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Taylor wrote:Big Big fan of South Park myself
those guys saved my life many a time.
Taylor wrote:Youkrst; would you say that your one time level of faith was as infantile...
good q. Taylor

in a sense yes and in another sense no

the bad doctrine certainly rendered me an idiot at times but i was always on the way out from the time i got in, it's just that when you dive that deep it takes a long time to come back up.
its predatory in that sense.
yes, god help anyone dumb enough to fall for bob's bullshit. (though bob i quite like)

still i suppose if there is a prey bob is quick enough to catch it will have already been caught by a one legged hunter with a dodgy knee.
I would not place Flann in that category
that's right, two completely different flavours. (i like Flann a lot)

my thing is i really like everyone even people i hate, because i dont hate anyone.

what i hate is the BS that warps them.

i hate what troubles my opponents so much it's hard to describe.

i don't mean a lie in the sense of telling a lie, i mean it in the sense of telling the whole human race a lie and then expending great energy and resource keeping it going.
T wrote:impertinent
:-D mate you are gold, when people like you are impertinent (not that you ever have been with me) it is an honour to be on the recieving end.
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Taylor wrote:I mean he can not possibly be that naïve can he?
that's always the question that beggars belief if the answer is yes :-D
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well time for an update on the revenge bob's God is wreaking to show me who is boss....

i had my favourite thing ever, a nice sleep in.

if anything things seem to be getting better, but that's probably just confirmation bias on my part, it is the weekend after all.

luckily i'm an amateur critical thinker or i might think the more i blaspheme your God the better life gets :lol:

remember bob you are always welcome at my place, your religious BS is not.

as i say to people, you can come in, your nickelback cannot.
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youkrst:
the bad doctrine certainly rendered me an idiot at times but i was always on the way out from the time i got in, it's just that when you dive that deep it takes a long time to come back up.
I guess I was lucky for growing up Catholic in America, Though my parents were involved in the church they never placed a heavy burden on their kids to do so as well.

My older brothers seem to have some level of faith as individuals, but for me, even as a kid I just never thought it was possible to, for instance walk on water, I tried, to this day it still is not a trick I am able to accomplish :) more than that though, I just never really believed, Over the years I tried to believe, but to no avail. For many years I must have carried some subconscious guilt for that non-belief, I was always so depressed or so I thought, was it related to the notion that I did not get God, (I don't know) I thought that there must have been something wrong with my mind, Anyway, cutting to the chase, A year or so ago I just dropped the notion of God all together, I divested myself of the notion of soul, its been like a weight was lifted from my shoulders, my mind is clearer, I don't have depressed thoughts, Like I said, was there some sub-conscious nagging going on, I can only surmise that yes indeed there was.

I am surrounded by people with some level of faith, I am not rude to them, though I have dropped the atheist label on myself if for nothing other than the shock value it holds for some. I had to order the Carrier book from amazon, there is no book dealer in the county in which I reside that has stocked the book, none of Carriers books for that matter, included in that un-stocked list is DM Murdock, Doherty, I did see one by Hitchens and one by Dawkins, tokens of best seller lists I surmise.
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