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Assuming the Christian God is real how should we kill it?

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Assuming the Christian God is real how should we kill it?

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Just for the sake of argument let's assume the Christian God exists as defined by the Bible. He literally committed all of the atrocities from both the Old Testament and New Testament.

Let's assume there is no logical contradiction in the concept of an all-powerful, all-knowing and all-good deity. Yes, we know there is...but move past that reasoning stuff so you can have fun with this discussion.

Obviously if this deity exists we cannot kill it so I'm not literally asking for your high-tech God-killing method.

But wouldn't we all want to give the death penalty to such a heinous being? If you could kill this God wouldn't you want to? Or would you want to banish him or her to some sort of eternal prison where he or she can no longer cause harm?

Discuss.

I'm going on vacation from tomorrow morning until Tuesday July 13th and I'm hoping to see you guys solve this problem. :lol:

I'll have access on my cell phone so late at night in bed I hope to see some brilliance here. :troll:
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Re: Assuming the Christian God is real how should we kill it?

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God has many wonderful attributes, but existence is not among them.

The best way to kill the idea that God is an existing intentional personal entity who created the universe is to zap him with a metaphor laser, melting him into pure poetry.
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God has many wonderful attributes, but existence is not among them.
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Re: Assuming the Christian God is real how should we kill it?

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I find it too hard to imagine as threatening the character I see portrayed in the Bible. I guess my imagination is not up to the job! God seems like an artifact from an ancient age, not unlike the Greek gods who are totally mythologized. He is part of the evolution of divinity, though, and as such I think that many people who say they follow him filter out the unpleasant aspects of a brutal iron age overlord. And there is little emphasis on hell these days in religion. Spas are a lot more popular.
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An infinite being cannot be killed even if he deserves killing as much as Yahweh does for his crimes against humanity.

We can certainly discredit both Yahweh and Christianity by just debating their morals and ethics. They are demonstrably immoral to any thinking moral mind.

That is why Christians had to use force and the sword to grow their religion instead of good deeds.

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Monty Python had some great ideas which might apply to this question.

Vercotti: Doug. (Takes a drink). Well, I was terrified. Everyone was terrified of Doug. I've seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.
2nd Interviewer: What did he do?
Vercotti: He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious.
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Killing Yahweh is impossible. Since it's all powerful and all knowing, it would detect any attempt to kill it before that attempt was even conceived. If Yahweh died, it would only be via suicide.

And by the way, punishing humans by sending them to Hell is an infinite crime. Humans spending an infinite time in Hell for finite crimes is infinitely unjust. That means that Yahweh would be the only creature that actually deserves an infinite time in Hell because it is the only creature that committed an infinite crime.

But, this is all fantasy, of course. :icecream:
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Robert Tulip wrote:Monty Python had some great ideas which might apply to this question.

Vercotti: Doug. (Takes a drink). Well, I was terrified. Everyone was terrified of Doug. I've seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.
2nd Interviewer: What did he do?
Vercotti: He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

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Murmur wrote:Killing Yahweh is impossible. Since it's all powerful and all knowing, it would detect any attempt to kill it before that attempt was even conceived. If Yahweh died, it would only be via suicide.

And by the way, punishing humans by sending them to Hell is an infinite crime. Humans spending an infinite time in Hell for finite crimes is infinitely unjust. That means that Yahweh would be the only creature that actually deserves an infinite time in Hell because it is the only creature that committed an infinite crime.

But, this is all fantasy, of course. :icecream:
That, or my God has already banished that demiurge to hell and that is why he does not pop up here.

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What did England do? From what I've heard (never visited) that is a very secular culture. Perhaps we can learn from them or other countries like Sweden.
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