excellent video.
This thing is great!
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(Addition 1/21/2011)
It turns out that this is one part of a series of videos produced by AronRa.
I have a thread going for the separate parts of this series over in the belief and religion section, as i think that is the place that it will generate the most discussion, seeing as the majority of this series is focused on wiping the floor with creationist propaganda.
Find links to those discussions below.
1st Foundational Falsehood of Creationism: Evolutioin = Atheism
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10093.html
2nd: Scriptures are the word of God
http://www.booktalk.org/2nd-foundationa ... 10094.html
3rd: Absolute Truth
http://www.booktalk.org/3rd-foundationa ... 10095.html
4th: Belief = Knowledge
http://www.booktalk.org/4th-foundationa ... 10099.html
5th: Evolution is a religious "ism"
http://www.booktalk.org/5th-foundationa ... 10101.html
6th: Evolution must explain the origin of life, the universe, and everything.
http://www.booktalk.org/6th-foundationa ... 10102.html
7th: Evolution is random
http://www.booktalk.org/7th-foundationa ... 10128.html
8th: Mutations are rare and always harmful
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10129.html
9th: No transitional species has ever been found
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10130.html
10th: The branching tree pattern of evolution is not evident
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10133.html
11th: Macro Evolution
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10132.html
12th: Creationism is Scientific
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10131.html
13th:Evolution is a fraud
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10134.html
14th: Creation is evident
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10135.html
15th: Evolution is just a theory and unprovable.
http://www.booktalk.org/topic10136.html
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Yes. Evolution.
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Re: Yes. Evolution.
"We're not just saying you descended from primates, either. We are saying you are a primate.
Humans have been clasified as primates since the 1700s when a christian, creationist scientist figured out what a primate was."
man that had me laughing!
Humans have been clasified as primates since the 1700s when a christian, creationist scientist figured out what a primate was."
man that had me laughing!
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Re: Yes. Evolution.
bonobo apes.
Check out this research facility and their bonobos. They never trained these apes to do anything in these videos. Just like babys, these apes learned what they do in this video by watching those important to them and learning. These bonobos write symbols on the floor with hyroglyphs the researchers have been using around them to indicate what they want to do.
They help set up camps, build fires (including lighting with a lighter *not trained*). attempts to drive the golf carts, interest in music and a lot more.
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One of them is better at pac-man than i am.
Check out this research facility and their bonobos. They never trained these apes to do anything in these videos. Just like babys, these apes learned what they do in this video by watching those important to them and learning. These bonobos write symbols on the floor with hyroglyphs the researchers have been using around them to indicate what they want to do.
They help set up camps, build fires (including lighting with a lighter *not trained*). attempts to drive the golf carts, interest in music and a lot more.
http://www.wimp.com/bestidea/
One of them is better at pac-man than i am.
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Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?
Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?
Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?
-Guillermo Del Torro
Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?
Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?
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Re: Yes. Evolution.
In the absence of God, I found Man.
-Guillermo Del Torro
Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?
Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?
Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?
-Guillermo Del Torro
Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?
Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?
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Re: Yes. Evolution.
In the absence of God, I found Man.
-Guillermo Del Torro
Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?
Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?
Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?
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Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?
Evolution- Biology- Rate of Change
There are moments throughout time where evolution pushes forward and different species are capable of evolving at a faster rate than usual. However, this accelerated rate of change takes anywhere from 10,000 years to a million years to occur. With the acceleration of technology in the past 50 years it may become impossible for human evolution to keep up with the pace of technology. What do we do when evolution can't keep up with the rate of change in technology that humans are now forced to confront?
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Re: Evolution- Biology- Rate of Change
I don't know. I didn't read the link. But giving here the benefit of all doubt to the propostion that evolution works by tending to allow those who best fit their current surroundings to continue on it's not a given that the best, brightest, strongest, fastest, or best looking of any species will be the ones whose genetic code extends out to the future... evolution is not particularly utopian in either process or effect - - not that you said it was. This really has very little to do with what you wrote... but for whatever reason it has me writing this. So when humans become woefully inadequate to their surroundings (be it through species-wide promotion to incompetence as you suggest or as a result of planned environmental degredation or perhaps an old fashioned nuclear winter or something similar) perhaps it will be time for the less intelligent species to again rule. This too would be an example of survival of the fittest every bit as much as is the case with the current dominance of humanity. And does anyone seriously believe that humanity will outlast cockroaches? So to go back to your question of what to do when computers are too complicated for us I'll say that we should hide when it's bright and try to become radiation resistant. In other words, adapt.anewhope wrote:What do we do when evolution can't keep up with the rate of change in technology that humans are now forced to confront?
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Re: Yes. Evolution.
I always like to say we humans are just monkeys with guns, meaning evolutionarily we aren't very different than apes, but technologically we are far advanced. Dawkins talks about the time lag problem, saying we are perfectly adapted for how conditions were about 10,000 years ago. As such, we have some basic incompatibilities with our environment which we have changed dramatically just in the last few hundred years. When a moth flies into a candle flame it is probably responding to the candle flame as if were a celestial object which it has evolved to use for navigation. Humans likely have all kinds of candle flame scenarios and most are of our own making.
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