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Chris OConnor  Rhodes Scholar BookTalk.org Owner

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Mr. Pessimistic  Assistant Professor Silver Contributor


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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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I would love to see a few states secede.
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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| No.......Each state is a member of the community as a whole but can not break away or secede/they can try but that can lead to serious problem that I would not support. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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| I voted "no" too. Gotta go, but maybe I'll elaborate later. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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| I voted yes. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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| That depends, I suppose, on their reason for wanting to do so. There's nothing sacred about the Union, and I don't think it should be upheld on principle alone. If a state can better provide for its citizens apart from the Union, then I say, good bye and good luck. |
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Dissident Heart  Embodiment of Reason Bronze Contributor


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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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This is a complex issue, no doubt.
I support the right to secede, but don't recommend it. I suppose the State would have to engage secession in partnership with other States: taking leverage and power from the US when doing so, and protecting themselves from ooutisde threats along the way.
I think a secession of California-Oregon-Washington is viable. I don't know how the US Federal Govt. would relinquish it's control of the resources it claims in those regions.
It doesn't seem possible without some sort of terrible catastrophe to Washington DC, severley disabling the Federal Government. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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| I imagine that the intended seccessionists would have to rely on help from other nations, and in doing so they would probably have to demonstrate the necessity and right to do so. The only other way I can think of that it might really be possible is if the climate were such that a great many states were considering seccession, such that it would be difficult for the federal government to draw support. That might divide the military along regional lines, and prevent the effective use of force in maintaining the union -- even if the other potential seccessionists ultimately decided to remain in the Union. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Would you support a state's right to secede?
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| it's a provisional yes vote - there must be conditions and trade agreements in place, and there should be a mechanism for an advantage to seceding that disadvantages the remainder of the country. for example, Scotland wanted to secede from GB as soon as they had found the North Sea oil. Secession should axcount for that in such a way that it maintains a mechanism for continuing pre-exisiting economies. |
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