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Why i am confident there are no ghosts.

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Re: Why i am confident there are no ghosts.

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I know that they can't hurt me, I'm more afraid of just the whole concept of interacting with them. like what if they just start gravitating towards me or something and then didn't leave me alone. I don't know If I could handle something like that. lol As I said I'm a chicken... I mean just thinking about it freaks me out because I've never heard any kind of voices or anything so just imagining communicating with them creeps me out. you know?
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The next time you see a ghost, as the person next to you if they see it as well.

Be very specific in your description.
"Do you see that man over there in the brown suit, holding a brief case, looking at his feet?"

If they say no, try another person. Ask as many people as you can, every time you see a ghost. if you are consistantly hearing no as the answer, then you very probably are having hallucinations. There can be any number of explainations for this, but it would be best to seek medical help. You may have a tumor.
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Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?

Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?

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I think your just hilarious! haha
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johnson1010 wrote:The next time you see a ghost, as the person next to you if they see it as well.

Be very specific in your description.
"Do you see that man over there in the brown suit, holding a brief case, looking at his feet?"

If they say no, try another person. Ask as many people as you can, every time you see a ghost. if you are consistantly hearing no as the answer, then you very probably are having hallucinations. There can be any number of explainations for this, but it would be best to seek medical help. You may have a tumor.
blankspace101 wrote:I think your just hilarious! haha
He may have a point. Hallucinations, if that's what they are, could suggest some kind of mental health or even medical health issue. I'm not suggesting this is absolutely the case and if you're healthy and ok with what you're seeing, regardless of what anyone else thinks it is, then continue on as you have been (you take cynicism and criticism in stride, which is more than I can say of others with your claims). But there could be a medical issue, in which case I would definitely agree that seeing a doctor could be beneficial. If nothing else, it would clear the tumor idea from your mind. Maybe you could bring it up at your next checkup.

Just trying to be helpful. :)
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I guess I could but I'm pretty sure I'm as healthy as I can get besides needing a few pounds to disappear lol The last physical I had the doctor said I should be doing triathlons! I said no thanks lol I prefer reading about people who do things like that rather than doing it ;)
But thanks for the health concerns all the same :D I'll ask about it next time and let you all know what happens :)
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bleachededen wrote:Humans need to believe in ghosts because we fear the unknown, and how much more unknown can you get than death? Because we fear death, and because we don't want to let go of the people we have lost, we (as a species, not saying I agree) need something to hold on to to let us hope that there is more to death than nothingness. Getting to haunt your old house or spy on your former family after you die sounds far more comforting than what we, deep down, really know to be true: our bodies decay and become one with the earth and the cycle starts again. Ghosts are like a safety net that I have to admit often sounds enticing -- that no one is ever really gone, no one ever really alone. The truth is fare more depressing, and you can't really blame people for hoping for something different.
Good point. The human race has always been reaching out into the unknown and proclaiming things that can't be proven...just ask the person who created religion. Whether it's true or not, there is so much argument about it that you can't just ignore it and move on; there's always that lingering feeling in your subconscious asking you if it is true or not. It does indeed sound enticing -- when you think about it, if you really do only live one life, you will never exist again after this. Time will move on and you will never experience anything past your life span. It's pretty saddening...we might as well hope we repeat the life cycle.
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there's always that lingering feeling in your subconscious asking you if it is true or not
The more distance you have from the indoctrination of your youth, the less you get that "stealing cookies" feeling like you really should have just nodded your head and gone along with everyone else. The more you juxtapose religion with the facts of your own eyes, the easier it is to simply dismiss it as a brand of mass hysteria. Now it is more a "i can't believe billions of people really BELIEVE this crap" than a "I wonder if religion really is right" kinda thing.

Confronting your own death is a terrible casm to peek over, no doubt. For me, it has galvanized my ambition to make an impact. Go do something with yourself. If you pass on having done nothing but play video games and eating at Hardee's, then there really will be nothing left of you when you are gone.

Reach out to people, make them remember you. The fact of there only being this life is a call to action. Be the best that you can, and help others do the same.
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Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?

Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?

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johnson1010 wrote:
there's always that lingering feeling in your subconscious asking you if it is true or not
The more distance you have from the indoctrination of your youth, the less you get that "stealing cookies" feeling like you really should have just nodded your head and gone along with everyone else. The more you juxtapose religion with the facts of your own eyes, the easier it is to simply dismiss it as a brand of mass hysteria. Now it is more a "i can't believe billions of people really BELIEVE this crap" than a "I wonder if religion really is right" kinda thing.

Confronting your own death is a terrible casm to peek over, no doubt. For me, it has galvanized my ambition to make an impact. Go do something with yourself. If you pass on having done nothing but play video games and eating at Hardee's, then there really will be nothing left of you when you are gone.

Reach out to people, make them remember you. The fact of there only being this life is a call to action. Be the best that you can, and help others do the same.
I believe it is more along the lines of "stealing hard drives." Not that I would have any relation to that.... :mrgreen:

Juxtapose to what? Science? If so, NO KIDDING....lol.
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why would a ghost hang out at your house?

It's got nothing better to do? Wouldn't you rather go meet Elvis, Einstein and Erik the Red? Are ghosts sticking to inhabited houses because they don't want to miss the next episode of LOST?

They just want to swing doors, really, really slowly? Too enchanted with causing cold spots to go and do something with their un-life?

I don't buy it.
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Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?

Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?

Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?
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Years ago I did a project for school. I picked a house and researched the title of this house, and went back as far as I could with the chain of title. I was able to go back beyond when the house was built, which was 1864.

Anyway, this house, a mansion actually, has a history of being haunted. It's on the ghost tour of the town it is located in. I was able to located two seperate owners of this home who both told me they heard and saw things. The story is this, an owner in the early part of the 1900's commited suicide by hanging in the upstairs bathroom. After his death, the wife lived in the home until it foreclosed. Once it forclosed, the wife bought part of the land attached to this property, with the hope of building her own house to be close to her husband. (should have built a lean to in the cemetary)Then, she died. So, there are two ghosts attached to this property. Both owners of this home I interviewed told me stories of yes, ghosts, and whispering, blah, blah, blah. What I found interesting, was both of these owners told a different story about how these ghosts appeared and what they were experiencing. So, I do agree with the mass hysteria idea. This home I refer to has the reputation of being haunted, so I would guess that any new homeowners of this house would be super sensitive about the existence of these ghosts. But, I would think that the stories would be simular. One home owner heard two voices, another heard only one voice. One homeowner felt the upstairs was haunted, the other felt the downstairs was haunted. I feel, these owners wanted to see and hear ghosts so badly, that they manifested these images and sounds. Besides, old mansions can be creepy without the pressence of ghosts.

Have to say I got an A+ on this project, the Professor loved ghost stories.
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