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I picked up my copy of the book today (thanks Mom, for the giftcard! ::77 ), so I'm in.

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I am in! I have started re-reading and am on chapter three. I read it and enjoyed it many years ago and am happy to read it again along with BookTalk members. In fact, I think there are some posts in reference to this book in our science forum. I will go search there and bump any relevant threads.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Who's in? Reply with quote
I'll be joining in later. I just got the book in yesterday's mail and haven't cracked it yet.

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Just picked it up. Sounds promising, I just hope the science isn't too out of date. We already know that the differences are a little more pronounced than Diamond thought back in 92.

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Niall:

Any info/sources you can share? I am interested in more on this topic.

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Yup, just not yet. I'm without proper net access.

Now I haven't read the book itself, so I'm going off the cover blurb, but it makes reference to humans sharing 98% of their genotype with chimps. Recent evidence suggests that this actually more like 96% if my memory suggests.

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Here's a couple of articles that cite the newer 96% figure:

New Genome Comparison Finds Chimps, Humans Very Similar at the DNA Level

Chimps, Humans 96 Percent the Same, Gene Study Finds

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Seems the concensus is still the same though...the similarities are far more interesting than the differences. And Diamond wrote this before the genomes were sequenced no? And to be that close...

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A comparison of Clint's genetic blueprints with that of the human genome shows that our closest living relatives share 96 percent of our DNA. The number of genetic differences between humans and chimps is ten times smaller than that between mice and rats.


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I bought the book this week, before I knew about this site. I am interested in the development of our human society from its animal roots and the existence of our animal roots in our (current) predicament.

I have never tried this before and am looking forward to seeing what develops.

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