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Re: What will Harold Camping say after May 21, 2011 when the Rapture doesn't occur?
I agree with Azrael in that I don't wish a stroke on anybody. Well, I suppose I would have been happy if Hitler or Osama Bin Laden had strokes, but not simply someone who had an irrational belief.
And I agree with tat tvam asi. This rapture shit is fun and I hope we have another one in October. LOL
Johnson1010, that would have been hilarious!!! Imagine a bunch of the rapture believers walking out of a church service on the 21st only to find hundreds of empty pants, shirts and shoes all over the place. Granted, their would have been some tears because they would then assume that the rapture happened and they weren't raptured, but people like us would have been crying from laughter.
Someone needs to stage this for the October rapture!
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Re: What will Harold Camping say after May 21, 2011 when the Rapture doesn't occur?
I'm torn here. Since May 21 has come and gone and Harold Camping has recently suffered a stroke I'm thinking maybe this thread should not remain as a sticky topic. Prior to the stroke Harold had switched the date from May 21st to October 21st and I was thinking we would leave this thread up till Oct. 21.
Does anyone know if Harold is recovering from the stroke and whether he is still preaching Oct. 21st as the new end of times?
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Re: What will Harold Camping say after May 21, 2011 when the Rapture doesn't occur?
There is a new article posted on Harold Camping's Family Radio website entitled "WHAT HAPPENED ON MAY 21?"
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What really happened this past May 21st ? What really happened is that God accomplished exactly what He wanted to happen. That was to warn the whole world that on May 21 God’s salvation program would be finished on that day. For the next five months, except for the elect (the true believers), the whole world is under God’s final judgment. To accomplish this goal God withheld from the true believers the way in which two phrases were to be understood. Had He not done so, the world would never have been shaken in fear as it was.
One phrase is “the completion of God’s salvation program.” The other is “God’s final judgment.” The completion of God’s salvation plan is concentrated in the word “rapture.” The phrase “God’s final judgment” is concentrated in the word “earthquake.”
These two words, “earthquake” and “rapture,” have been extremely important in our teaching of Judgment Day – May 21. A critical understanding of these two words is the only change required to know why the unsaved are now living in a world that has not been horribly destroyed, and the elect have not been caught up to be with God.
We always look at the word “earthquake” to mean the earth, or ground, is quaking or shaking violently. However, in the Bible the word “earth” can include people as well as ground.
In Genesis 2:7 we read:
“And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground…” Thus the word “earthquake” can also be understood to teach that mankind shakes.
Therefore we have learned from our experience of last May 21 what actually happened. All of mankind was shaken with fear. Indeed the earth (or mankind) did quake in a way it had never before been shaken. God had come spiritually to bring judgment upon the whole world.
The second word, “rapture,” identifies with the idea of the completion of God’s salvation program. The catching up of all the elect meant that there was to be no more salvation activity to be done anywhere in the world by God. Each and every true believer had become eternally safe with God in Heaven. No more was there any aspect of God’s salvation program that remained to be done.
But the same thing became true this past May 21, even though no one was raptured. No one who had not become saved by that date can ever become saved. God tells us in Revelation 22:10-12:
“And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: For the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he that is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still. And behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work shall be.”
Thus we have learned that except for a somewhat different understanding of the words “earthquake” and “rapture” or “catching up” no other past teachings of Judgment Day or the end of the world have been changed. The time line, the certainty of it, the proofs, and the signs are all precisely the same. No other past teachings have been changed or modified. Indeed, on May 21 Christ did come spiritually to put all of the unsaved throughout the world into judgment. But that universal judgment will not be physically seen until the last day of the five month judgment period, on October 21, 2011.
We have also learned that God is still teaching that God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked and will not punish the wicked beyond what is called for in Deuteronomy 25. That is, there is a distinct limit to God’s wrath.
Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on October 21, 2011, on the last day of the present five months period. On that day the true believers (the elect) will be raptured. We must remember that only God knows who His elect are that He saved prior to May 21.
You, too, without your knowledge may have become saved before that date. Anyone can continue to beseech God for mercy because salvation and the election program are entirely in God’s hands.
It looks like we're all going to die in exactly one month.
Thus we can be sure that the whole world, with the exception of those who are presently saved (the elect), are under the judgment of God, and will be annihilated together with the whole physical world on October 21, 2011, on the last day of the present five months period. On that day the true believers (the elect) will be raptured. We must remember that only God knows who His elect are that He saved prior to May 21.
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Re: What will Harold Camping say after May 21, 2011 when the Rapture doesn't occur?
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However, in the Bible the word “earth” can include people as well as ground.
In Genesis 2:7 we read:
“And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground…” Thus the word “earthquake” can also be understood to teach that mankind shakes.
So that's it? That's the best he could come up with? I wonder how many people have accepted this apology? Oh no people, not a physical earthquake, but rather a "mankind shake" because man is made from the dust of the earth. lol
It just gets worse as he tries to dig himself out of the hole. I can only imagine what he's going to try two or three months from now after more flaccid results...
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Re: What will Harold Camping say after May 21, 2011 when the Rapture doesn't occur?
Well, he wasn't right. Only God knows when the Rapture will take place. No one else, not even Jesus. People should stop trying to play God, and get saved!
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Re: What will Harold Camping say after May 21, 2011 when the Rapture doesn't occur?
He made Christians look like fools. Like we think we know when Jesus is coming back. We don't. For all I know, it could be five minutes or five hundred years!
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Re: What will Harold Camping say after May 21, 2011 when the Rapture doesn't occur?
True Katelyn. The bible says that no one knows the day or the hour, not angels in heaven or even Jesus but God the Father alone. Camping had to scripture twist to get where he's gotten. But this all opens up an even deeper question. What if the whole thing is just as wacky as Camping's interpretation of it? What if the very idea of thinking that a rapture will be happening in the future at any point in time, literally, is essentially insane?
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