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I picked the elvis theory.
The government lying to us is not only possible, but very probable. About these particular things...? I don't think that is likely, but they have given us reason to suspect them.
The Elvis thing is just another indication for our desire to worship heroes. These are the goofiest kinds of theories in my opinion, and the least likely to lead to any kind of benefit for the believer.
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Re: What's the kookiest of these conspiracy theories?
the craziest conspiracy theory is all this talk about 12/21/12. From my vantage point, that date is the end of the Mayan calendar and after that date, their calendar starts over. That is all it is about!
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I picked aliens. People see strange flying aircraft around an Air Force test installation. They think it's more likely aliens than prototype aircraft. Baffles me.
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Interbane........i don't believe in aliens either!!!!!!!! little green men, horns....the only one that I remember is the great gazoo from the Flintstones! LOL
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Re: What's the kookiest of these conspiracy theories?
Gotta be 9/11.
First of all, there is no reasonable benefit to blowing up the towers or the Pentagon or wherever the other plane was going. The United States government derived nothing out of those attacks. Now I know, the lunatics will say it had something to do with getting us into a war with ANYBODY in the Middle East, and it had something to do with oil, and something to do with Saddam Hussein threatening W's daddy or some nonsense. The fact is, if we wanted to start a war in the Middle East, we had plenty of reasons before 9/11 to do it. Our interests abroad have been at risk for over a decade becasue of terrorist groups. We didn't need an excuse.
Secondly, there is no way the amount of people needed to pull that off would have been able to keep the secret. Somebody in the loop would have leaked the conspiracy either on purpose or by mistake. Too much of a paper trail. Too much "chatter" would have been needed. The chances of something that big being kept secret before and more importantly after the attack are slim to none or less.
Thirdly, W was just not THAT evil. He's a prick. He's a bad man in essence. He's a liar. And he has done things to the people of this country for which he should never be forgiven. HOWEVER, as much as I hate the guy...and I truly DO hate the guy...I can't believe he would have been involved in such a conspiracy, nor would he have allowed it to happen. As I said, he isn't that evil. And more importantly, he isn't that smart.
Conspiracy theories from the ridiculous to the mildly credible have all been disproven. When one of the conspiracy theorists find out a theory is disproven, they come back with a response that is equivalent to "Yeah, but..." There is no real evidence to support such a consipracy. All of the credible evidence and science goes beyond that and disproves the arguments for it.
So that's it. The 9/11 conspiracy theories are the mindless rantings of a bunch of lunatics in my book.
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Gotta be 9/11.
First of all, there is no reasonable benefit to blowing up the towers or the Pentagon or wherever the other plane was going. The United States government derived nothing out of those attacks. Now I know, the lunatics will say it had something to do with getting us into a war with ANYBODY in the Middle East, and it had something to do with oil, and something to do with Saddam Hussein threatening W's daddy or some nonsense. The fact is, if we wanted to start a war in the Middle East, we had plenty of reasons before 9/11 to do it. Our interests abroad have been at risk for over a decade becasue of terrorist groups. We didn't need an excuse.
Secondly, there is no way the amount of people needed to pull that off would have been able to keep the secret. Somebody in the loop would have leaked the conspiracy either on purpose or by mistake. Too much of a paper trail. Too much "chatter" would have been needed. The chances of something that big being kept secret before and more importantly after the attack are slim to none or less.
Thirdly, W was just not THAT evil. He's a prick. He's a bad man in essence. He's a liar. And he has done things to the people of this country for which he should never be forgiven. HOWEVER, as much as I hate the guy...and I truly DO hate the guy...I can't believe he would have been involved in such a conspiracy, nor would he have allowed it to happen. As I said, he isn't that evil. And more importantly, he isn't that smart.
Conspiracy theories from the ridiculous to the mildly credible have all been disproven. When one of the conspiracy theorists find out a theory is disproven, they come back with a response that is equivalent to "Yeah, but..." There is no real evidence to support such a consipracy. All of the credible evidence and science goes beyond that and disproves the arguments for it.
So that's it. The 9/11 conspiracy theories are the mindless rantings of a bunch of lunatics in my book.
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this time believe it or not,I agree with you! Although some crazy people say that 9/11 was some kind of government ploy, why on God's green earth would President Bush or anybody else in the government at that time want to blow up and kill as many Americans as were killed on that day. Even though a good portion of our government is corrupt, there is absolutely no way that someone from this country would do this on purpose just so that we can start a war with other nations. After all, we have proof that flying instructions were being given to people who lived outside of this country and somehow gained citizenship along with their families for one reason or another. Those particular people were somehow brainwashed into thinking that they would be heros in the country that they were from if they created this act of terrorism and killed as many people as they did that day. They were told that when they crashed the planes, not only would so many American lives be lost but that they would lose their own lives for the good of their country. At first I didn't think that retaliation on our part was the answer, but, after thinking about it long and hard, I became to realize that that was the only way to get back at those people who so viciously attacked us.
But, getting back to the subject at hand, 9/11 was definitely not induced in any way, shape or form by any government official in this country. It is outrageous that some people think those things!
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I totally agree that 9/11 was not a US govt. move.
However, It should be noted that false flag attacks have been routinely utilized by our government to incite wars. With the dazzling track record of our country, i can see how this conspiracy might be found credible to some.
It was their religious faith which allowed them to reconcile their immediate suicide and the murder of thousands of people as a viable choice. As a martyr, they get direct access to paradise, forgoing the rigorous trial at the gate, and also allowing them to permit access for an additional 70 people, based on their say-so.
Another gem brought to us by magical thinking.
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I totally agree that 9/11 was not a US govt. move.
However, It should be noted that false flag attacks have been routinely utilized by our government to incite wars. With the dazzling track record of our country, i can see how this conspiracy might be found credible to some.
It was their religious faith which allowed them to reconcile their immediate suicide and the murder of thousands of people as a viable choice. As a martyr, they get direct access to paradise, forgoing the rigorous trial at the gate, and also allowing them to permit access for an additional 70 people, based on their say-so.
Another gem brought to us by magical thinking.
Johnson, yes I agree that we have done things to "draw" ourselves into conflict There are some who say we knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked that day but did little or nothing to stop it so we would have a reason to enter the war in the Pacific. I don't know if that's true. But don't get me wrong. I'm not beyond believing our government is capable of doing things like that. However, 9/11 would have involved affirmative action against the homeland. Or at least it would have if the conspiracy theories are true.
That and the impossible logistics involved prove to me that it just didn't happen that way.
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[quote][/quote]@Phillies4ever, I'm not surprised you agree with me. Everybody has moments of lucidity.
too....I know we've had our moments of disagreeing with each other where the government is concerned and that is to be expected. That's why they make chocolate and vanilla! So many other posts that we've been in together, it was just my opinion versus yours and that's to be expected. There are no hard feelings here so I guess what I'm saying is I aim waving the white flag but as far as 9/11 is concerned, if you talk to other people, they feel the same way that we do; that it was not a conspiracy on our government's part. Well my last post said it all and I just came to let you know that I've made peace with you. I have my theory on politics and you have yours and by me, that is perfectly acceptable. I hope you will agree. I am by no means a troublemaker. I am just an ordinary person with ordinary opinions. But like the saying goes, to each his own or her own as the case may be.
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@Phillies...
No hard feelings at all. If we all agreed on everything, we would all be Republicans in Congress. (Sorry, I HAD to do that.) I respect your opinions and arguments as long as you respect mine. I have seen nothing from you to indicate that you don't.
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@toodeemo.......thank you for seeing things through my vantage point. Believe it or not, I think the two of us are finally on the same page! Isn't that scary LOL? I absolutely respect your opinions and I am glad that you respect mine. I do know one thing, I will never get involved in anything political on this website again. It's much too stressful LOL!! But if I met a new friend in you then hey, it was worth it.
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its not so bad, phillies4ever.
I always welcome an opportunity to see other perspectives, let them challenge my own ideas about things, and then see if my own stance is justified.
It happens that sometimes i run into somebody who has an insight that i do not. I expect that if i make a statement, i will likely be asked to defend that position.
I don't think anyone here lets their differing opinions on religion or politics brand anyone else as some kind of bad person.
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its not so bad, phillies4ever.
I always welcome an opportunity to see other perspectives, let them challenge my own ideas about things, and then see if my own stance is justified.
It happens that sometimes i run into somebody who has an insight that i do not. I expect that if i make a statement, i will likely be asked to defend that position.
I don't think anyone here lets their differing opinions on religion or politics brand anyone else as some kind of bad person.
johnson1010........ thank you for making me feel better about my views on politics versus someone else's. Like I have said to 'too'....... that is why they make chocolate and vanilla. I don't intentionally want to fight on here.... we all have our own opinions and sometimes I just like to see other points of view. Sometimes I learn things, and sometimes I don't. Honestly, I am a caring, warm hearted woman and I don't think I could hhurt a fly. So to everyone on this post, I am totally harmless! This website and the people on it are absolutely amazing and I feel like I've made some new friends.
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but as far as 9/11 is concerned, if you talk to other people, they feel the same way that we do; that it was not a conspiracy on our government's part. Well my last post said it all and I just came to let you know that I've made peace with you. I have my theory on politics and you have yours and by me, that is perfectly acceptable. I hope you will agree. I am by no means a troublemaker. I am just an ordinary person with ordinary opinions. But like the saying goes, to each his own or her own as the case may be.
