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What, In God's Name? by Michael Barry

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Chris OConnor wrote:We discuss our books while we're reading them and we literally rip them apart.
It is just grammar. We don't rip the books apart like Mike Tyson tearing a phone book in two, but rather rip ideas apart.
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Yes, thank you Robert Tulip. Chris, Landroid and others here have got through to me; I understand now. I can see that just declaring unprecedented theories without explaining how I reached the conclusions, and expecting everyone to accept them just because I say so, was a big mistake. BookTalk has made me realize that I need to be more specific, and provide more information. I'm rewriting W,IGN with much more detail now.
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Landroid Wrote: That is a strange idea - why would a prohibition on cloning humans be "God’s ultimate golden rule?" We have cloned sheep so it's unlikely there are technical reasons why we can't clone humans. It is probably possible to do so, but that may never happen due to legal and ethical restrictions. Cloned humans would grow up very differently if raised in different environments - they would not be duplicate identities. Therefore I see no reason to imagine a divine restriction against it.

Michael Barry Writes: Every human being is an individual identity, Landroid. That's how we discovered forensic DNA fingerprinting. Dolly, the cloned sheep was born with arthritis and died soon after because the nucleus in a cloned cell is the same age as the 'being' who provided the cell nucleus for cloning. A clone 'IS' a duplicate identity. That's the whole point of cloning. My claim is that the identity gene in between each gene (to separate one gene from another) on our chromosomes, is that which we have all come to know as our soul. I thought this was clearly pointed out in W,IGN? That's why the everlasting kingdom are more concerned about your soul than anything else. Again, aren't we coming back to the same thing? You request credentials and evidence for my claims, but where are yours?
I tried to cut and paste a lengthy quote into a quote box, but I was unsuccessful. I'll figure it out, eventually.
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Landroid Wrote: You are mighty certain about that, but I already covered how the "original human" couldn't exist due to the gradual long time line of human evolution. Elsewhere you mention no humans existed prior to the specific date of 4026 BCE. Are you a Young Earth Creationist? :P
Michael Barry Writes: Isaac Newton's looking down on us, Landroid? Take one male rabbit, take one female rabbit. Put them on a deserted island (with no rabbits) and come back one hundred years later. Holy crap, thousands of rabbits! Press rewind on the entire concept and change it to: Take one male human, take one female human. Put them on the Earth. The Doomsday Book recorded 6 million people living in England (1066AD), and now there are 70 million. Ancestry, family trees, the result of the subtraction can only be two, and before that, one. Time Team have established beyond question, many times, no evidence of any cultivation on Earth before 4026BC. And as Moses points out in Genesis, "Because there was no man to cultivate the ground".
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Landroid Wrote: Whew that's a doozy! If you've ever watched a nature documentary of life on the African plains showing, for example the drama of cheetah and gazelle, you know mammals have been killing mammals since time primordial. And...um....cough-cough...snakes are not mammals, they are reptiles! :slap:
Michael Barry Writes: It's only because I like you, Landroid, that I'm not ripping your stuff to pieces. You're right. The way I have explained things in W,IGN are not getting through? Cough, cough, there's no mention of snakes in my book? The serpent was the first mortal mammal to eat mortal mammal flesh. The serpent became a worm. I know my book is difficult to read, but please, try this bit again? I've been answering all of these questions for years. Up against 'experts' in their field. They can't win. Such is my confidence. I just need to be as specific with my writing as I am with my talking.
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Landroid Wrote: Fortunately we do not require that technology because we are already in our solar system! :?
Michael Barry Writes: Yes Landroid, we're in our solar system. The point I'm making is about those who are not in our solar system. I'm beginning to wonder if the problem isn't my inept writing skills?
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Landroid Wrote: I don't have time or energy to deal with the first part of that statement. I'll focus on the second part in italics (my emphasis) since it's an example of another problem with your writing style. Notice the italicized second part has nothing whatsoever to do with the first part - it's just plopped onto the end, evidently because you happened to have those random thoughts when writing that paragraph. You do this several times in the book.
Michael Barry Writes: You're right, Landroid, my bad. The second part is out of place, and I am guilty of doing this in several places. I didn't notice. That's why Booktalk is so invaluable? Regarding the first part, I believe the prestigious American scientists who have concluded that the moon landings are a crock. They're easy to find on the internet.
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Landroid Wrote: You are correct because YahWeh rested on the seventh day. Therefore he actually created everything in 6 days X 24 = 144 hours! :chatsmilies_com_92:
Michael barry Writes: I don't have time or energy to deal with this one Landroid, it's pathetic.
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ser·pent ˈsərpənt/ noun
noun: serpent; plural noun: serpents
1. literary a large snake.
- a biblical name for Satan (see Gen. 3, Rev. 20). noun: Serpent; noun: the Serpent
- a dragon or other mythical snakelike reptile.
2. a sly or treacherous person, especially one who exploits a position of trust in order to betray it.
3. historical a bass wind instrument made of leather-covered wood in three U-shaped turns, with a cup-shaped mouthpiece and few keys. It was played in military and church bands from the 17th to 19th centuries.
https://www.google.com/#q=define%3A+serpent
Perhaps we're both using the word serpent incorrectly. I was using the literal definition as a snake. However the biblical use is a name for Satan. You somehow use serpent as a mortal mammal, which is totally wrong. Satan is not mortal and whether snake, dragon, or satan, serpents are not mammals.
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Landroid Wrote: Noooooooooo! Please do more research in general, but in this case especially on volcanoes and subduction zones.
Michael Barry Writes: The BBC Horizon programmes (highly respected) have got some explaining to do? Landroid tells me that I have been misinformed by them.
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