I was going to join the classic discussion...but I tend to over-extend myself in trying to participate...I have not even read Collapse in a few days. I am doing MAJOR garden and landscaping work lately!
I took an interest in Sparta after while reading the Harris book, "Civilization and It's Enemies". That is about the only useful thing I got from it!
pctacitus recommended the Sparta books on my list.
Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.
The pain in hell has two sides. The kind you can touch with your hand; the kind you can feel in your heart...Scorsese's "Mean Streets"
I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper