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Saffron  Amazingly Intelligent

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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: What do you think of the new Poet Laureate, Kay Ryan?
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On July 17th, Kay Ryan was named Poet laureate. You can read some of her poetry at Poets.org. So, what do you think?
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She's not the first woman laureate (what a cush job, by the way! What do you suppose it pays?), but I'm too lazy to look up the other(s). What do I think about her? Well, I'm insecure about clever poets. I'm afraid I tend toward poetry that is so simple that, as some poet said, your dog could understand it. That's why I'm more into the older stuff--that, and the rhymes making it easier to memorize.
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Saffron  Amazingly Intelligent

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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject:
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Surfaces
by Kay Ryan
Surfaces serve
their own purposes,
strive to remain
constant (all lives
want that). There is
a skin, not just on
peaches but on oceans
(note the telltale
slough of foam on beaches).
Sometimes it’s loose,
as in the case
of cats: you feel how a
second life slides
under it. Sometimes it
fits. Take glass.
Sometimes it outlasts
its underside. Take reefs.
The private lives of surfaces
are innocent, not devious.
Take the one-dimensional
belief of enamel in itself,
the furious autonomy
of luster (crush a pearl—
it’s powder), the whole
curious seamlessness
of how we’re each surrounded
and what it doesn’t teach. |
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject:
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Hi Saffron,
Would you have anything to say about this poem by Ryan? I don't mean that it has to be explained, because that can kill it, but what do you see as you read it? My radar doesn't sem to be good at picking up its meanings. Thanks.
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Saffron  Amazingly Intelligent

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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject:
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Impressions while reading Surfaces
As I read through the first time, I had the image of the faces or appearances we cultivate or create to show the world and that we hide behind. The image of the cat and how loose their shin is, made me think of how some people are so good at putting forth a face that is so movable you can't quite pin down who they are or that the skin is big enough that to give them room to shape shift.
If this helps, DWill, I read her poems are a bit like riddles.
Anybody what to have a go at this to help me out? |
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Saffron  Amazingly Intelligent

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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject:
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| I've been reading some of Kay Ryan's poetry to see if I can gain an understanding of why she was chosen to be the Poet Laureate of the USA. I posted the poem Surfaces because I am trying hard to figure her and it out. I think I need help too, DWill. |
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LanDroid  Senior Silver Contributor


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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:46 am Post subject:
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| Thanks, LanDroid. I'm going to try the link. Have you read any of her other poems? If so, what do you think? |
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:17 am Post subject:
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I like this poem, but I'm not really sure why. Anyone interested in discussing some of Kay Ryan's poetry? DWill? You saw her read -- what did you think?
Sharks' Teeth
by Kay Ryan
Everything contains some
silence. Noise gets
its zest from the
small shark's-tooth
shaped fragments
of rest angled
in it. An hour
of city holds maybe
a minute of these
remnants of a time
when silence reigned,
compact and dangerous
as a shark. Sometimes
a bit of a tail
or fin can still
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:04 am Post subject:
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This is a great inspirational poem by Kay Ryan.
Doubt
A chick has just so much time
to chip its way out, just so much
egg energy to apply to the weakest spot
or whatever spot it started at.
It can't afford doubt. Who can?
Doubt uses albumen
at twice the rate of work.
One backward look by any of us
can cost what it cost Orpheus.
Neither may you answer
the stranger's knock;
you know it is the Person from Porlock
who eats dreams for dinner,
his napkin stained the most delicate colors. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:25 am Post subject:
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| geo wrote: |
This is a great inspirational poem by Kay Ryan.
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I'll be thinking about this one all day! Thanks, geo. |
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