Online reading group and book discussion forum
  HOME FORUMS BOOKS LINKS DONATE ADVERTISE CONTACT  
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:32 am

Forum rules


Authors and publishers are welcome to tell us about their books ONLY if they are honest and reveal their relationship to the book and/or author. If you are here to promote a book you MUST state that you are the author, publisher or some other relation to the author or publisher or campaign to promote the book. Nothing short of complete disclosure will be tolerated.

All attempts to deceive BookTalk.org visitors and members with fake book reviews or endorsements make you, the author and the book appear unworthy of legitimate praise and will result in instant banning of all accounts, email addresses and IP addresses associated with the deception.

We take book suggestions, endorsement and reviews seriously on BookTalk.org and if you insult our intelligence with fake suggestions, endorsements and reviews we don't want you here and we won't consider your book as being worthy of our time.

If you would like to advertise your book click on the ADVERTISE link in the top green navigation bar and purchase and ad.



Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 29 posts ] • Topic evaluate: Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.  Go to page Previous  1, 2
WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion! 
Author Message
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Pulitzer Prize Finalist


Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 488
Thanks: 44
Thanked: 113 times in 95 posts
Gender: Female
Country: Gambia (gm)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
And Camacho has also made a good point. We don't all have access to libraries, or can afford to buy a book if its too expensive.


_________________
Life's a glitch and then you die - The Simpsons


Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:58 am
Profile Email
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Online
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Owner
Diamond Contributor 3

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 13979
Location: Florida
Thanks: 1967
Thanked: 753 times in 597 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Highscores: 8

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
Maybe we should start having one of our book discussions always of a free book. The rule can be that the book must be readily available in libraries or online for no cost at all. You know I never really thought of that before so thanks for bringing it to my attention. The cost of always buying books can definitely be an obstacle to participation.

President Camacho, thanks for the helpful feedback. Now we have to decide how to make this idea work for us. As of right now I'm actually thinking that the cost of books is probably a huge factor for most people. I've just ignored it up till now because I assumed that buying books is just part of all reading groups. But it doesn't have to be.

What if we always have one fiction and one non-fiction book on our menu that are free?


_________________
We generated $419.10 in donations for Christmas gifts for the kids at the Cleveland Christian Home this year. Thank you so much for helping make their Christmas a bit brighter! The gifts have been ordered from Amazon.com and I've posted the invoice.


Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:38 am
Profile Email YIM WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Pulitzer Prize Finalist


Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 488
Thanks: 44
Thanked: 113 times in 95 posts
Gender: Female
Country: Gambia (gm)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
Well I think that is a good idea. I would never have participated in the Wilde forum if I hadn't been able to get a free download of The Importance of Being Earnest


_________________
Life's a glitch and then you die - The Simpsons


Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:06 am
Profile Email
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Intern

Silver Contributor

Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 169
Location: AR
Thanks: 16
Thanked: 52 times in 48 posts
Gender: Female
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
Speaking as a relative newcomer, you guys can be somewhat intimidating to the average person. Most of the books you discuss, and the discussions themselves, are pretty deep and beyond the comfort level of the average reader. Most people will not put themselves into a discussion where they would feel stupid. The average reader does not have the background in philosophy, literature, theology, and political affairs to participate intelligently in many of the discussions on this forum - and let me repeat, no one likes to feel stupid.

Look at all the best-seller lists - if you want more people to join your discussions, discuss those books. And discuss them when they are still current, not 30 years after they were a best-seller.



The following user would like to thank kelstan for this post:
Chris OConnor
Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:22 pm
Profile Email
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Online
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Owner
Diamond Contributor 3

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 13979
Location: Florida
Thanks: 1967
Thanked: 753 times in 597 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Highscores: 8

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
Thanks, Kelstan. Awesome feedback.

The entire site is currently being redesigned behind the scenes. Hopefully in a few days we will have made enough progress to share a link to the work in progress. All of the feedback is extremely helpful and is going into the new design.


_________________
We generated $419.10 in donations for Christmas gifts for the kids at the Cleveland Christian Home this year. Thank you so much for helping make their Christmas a bit brighter! The gifts have been ordered from Amazon.com and I've posted the invoice.


Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:13 pm
Profile Email YIM WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Intern


Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 155
Location: British Columbia
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 16 times in 12 posts
Gender: None specified
Country: Canada (ca)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
kelstan wrote:
Speaking as a relative newcomer, you guys can be somewhat intimidating to the average person. Most of the books you discuss, and the discussions themselves, are pretty deep and beyond the comfort level of the average reader. Most people will not put themselves into a discussion where they would feel stupid. The average reader does not have the background in philosophy, literature, theology, and political affairs to participate intelligently in many of the discussions on this forum - and let me repeat, no one likes to feel stupid.

Look at all the best-seller lists - if you want more people to join your discussions, discuss those books. And discuss them when they are still current, not 30 years after they were a best-seller.


Well said Kelstan.

So I am not the only one who feels rather intimidated here. Not going to bail out yet. Even though I am not on the same wave lenght as a lot of folks here I can see the potential.



Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:49 pm
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Kindle Fanatic


Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 539
Location: Arkham Asylum
Thanks: 33
Thanked: 55 times in 44 posts
Gender: Female
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
kelstan wrote:
Speaking as a relative newcomer, you guys can be somewhat intimidating to the average person. Most of the books you discuss, and the discussions themselves, are pretty deep and beyond the comfort level of the average reader. Most people will not put themselves into a discussion where they would feel stupid. The average reader does not have the background in philosophy, literature, theology, and political affairs to participate intelligently in many of the discussions on this forum - and let me repeat, no one likes to feel stupid.

Look at all the best-seller lists - if you want more people to join your discussions, discuss those books. And discuss them when they are still current, not 30 years after they were a best-seller.



I feel this is true. It's part of the reason I wasn't participating before. A lot of the books were science or philosophy, so I also felt like I didn't have much to contribute.


_________________
Big bright accent, catty smile
Oscar Wilde confrontation
Ah, live like it's the style.

Shelfari!


Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:02 pm
Profile Email YIM
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
pets endangered by possible book avalanche

Gold Contributor

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 4174
Location: Canberra
Thanks: 1140
Thanked: 1197 times in 900 posts
Gender: Male
Country: Australia (au)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
The Swerve - How the World Became Modern
Stephen Greenblatt (Author, Harvard University)

Winner of the 2011 National Book Award for Non-Fiction

http://books.wwnorton.com/books/The-Swerve/

Quote:
One of the world's most celebrated scholars, Stephen Greenblatt has crafted both an innovative work of history and a thrilling story of discovery, in which one manuscript, plucked from a thousand years of neglect, changed the course of human thought and made possible the world as we know it.

Nearly six hundred years ago, a short, genial, cannily alert man in his late thirties took a very old manuscript off a library shelf, saw with excitement what he had discovered, and ordered that it be copied. That book was the last surviving manuscript of an ancient Roman philosophical epic, On the Nature of Things, by Lucretius-a beautiful poem of the most dangerous ideas: that the universe functioned without the aid of gods, that religious fear was damaging to human life, and that matter was made up of very small particles in eternal motion, colliding and swerving in new directions.

The copying and translation of this ancient book-the greatest discovery of the greatest book-hunter of his age-fueled the Renaissance, inspiring artists such as Botticelli and thinkers such as Giordano Bruno; shaped the thought of Galileo and Freud, Darwin and Einstein; and had a revolutionary influence on writers such as Montaigne and Shakespeare and even Thomas Jefferson.


Lucretius is a key source of Jefferson's phrase "the pursuit of happiness". Greenblatt's award winning top seller shows the origin of atheist science dates at least to the Roman Republic.

An excellent radio interview is at http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/pro ... ve/3713380

Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Swerve-How-World- ... 0393064476


_________________
http://rtulip.net


Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:15 am
Profile Email WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Online
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Owner
Diamond Contributor 3

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 13979
Location: Florida
Thanks: 1967
Thanked: 753 times in 597 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Highscores: 8

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
I just reread every post in this thread. As of right now we don't have any suggestions that received positive feedback. So we're not able to move forward.

I agree that our non-fiction books are intimidating. I don't see that going away. The only solution to this is to figure out a way to offer a less intimidating non-fiction book discussion concurrently. I just don't know how to do that as of right now.

How do we ask for suggestions of less intimidating books without insulting people? That's the challenge.



Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:48 am
Profile Email YIM WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Online
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Owner
Diamond Contributor 3

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 13979
Location: Florida
Thanks: 1967
Thanked: 753 times in 597 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Highscores: 8

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
I think I have a solution that will make everyone happy and will result in everyone being able to vote and participate in the book selection process no matter how new or how few of forum posts. I'll say more soon.


_________________
We generated $419.10 in donations for Christmas gifts for the kids at the Cleveland Christian Home this year. Thank you so much for helping make their Christmas a bit brighter! The gifts have been ordered from Amazon.com and I've posted the invoice.


Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:39 am
Profile Email YIM WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Pulitzer Prize Finalist


Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 488
Thanks: 44
Thanked: 113 times in 95 posts
Gender: Female
Country: Gambia (gm)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
Well based on cost and whether it is available as a Kindle download I would vote for Evolutionary Psychology or Leviathan (which is a free download). I feel intimidated already, and think the discussion will be over my head, but I'll try anyway.


_________________
Life's a glitch and then you die - The Simpsons


Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:35 am
Profile Email
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Online
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Owner
Diamond Contributor 3

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 13979
Location: Florida
Thanks: 1967
Thanked: 753 times in 597 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Highscores: 8

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
I just created a discussion topic at topic11883.html that I would love you guys to join.


_________________
We generated $419.10 in donations for Christmas gifts for the kids at the Cleveland Christian Home this year. Thank you so much for helping make their Christmas a bit brighter! The gifts have been ordered from Amazon.com and I've posted the invoice.


Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:42 am
Profile Email YIM WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
The Unbound and Learned

Gold Contributor 2

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 3168
Location: NC
Thanks: 1059
Thanked: 1131 times in 851 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
Dexter wrote:
Evolutionary Psychology: A Beginner's Guide
http://www.amazon.com/Evolutionary-Psyc ... 107&sr=8-2

. . . I thought this could be an interesting topic, it's a short, inexpensive book with good reviews. I was going to suggest Robert Wright's book on this topic, The Moral Animal, but I figure it was published 10 years earlier so this might be better.


This looks pretty interesting, Dexter!


_________________
-Geo
Question everything


The following user would like to thank geo for this post:
Dexter
Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:42 am
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Online
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Owner
Diamond Contributor 3

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 13979
Location: Florida
Thanks: 1967
Thanked: 753 times in 597 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)
Highscores: 8

Post Re: WANTED: Book suggestions for our January & February 2012 NON-FICTION group discussion!
An observation I am making today is that it seems pretty easy to find fiction books for free online but non-fiction is a bit more challenging. Few people are interested in non-fiction books that are old enough to be in the public domain. Fiction, on the other hand, is like fine wine, and gets better with time.


_________________
We generated $419.10 in donations for Christmas gifts for the kids at the Cleveland Christian Home this year. Thank you so much for helping make their Christmas a bit brighter! The gifts have been ordered from Amazon.com and I've posted the invoice.


Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:07 pm
Profile Email YIM WWW
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 29 posts ] • Topic evaluate: Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.  Go to page Previous  1, 2



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:


BookTalk.org Links 
Forum Rules & Tips
Frequently Asked Questions
BBCode Explained
Info for Authors & Publishers
Featured Book Suggestions
Author Interview Transcripts
Be a Book Discussion Leader!
    

Love to talk about books but don't have time for our book discussion forums? For casual book talk join us on Facebook.

Featured Books

Books by New Authors



Booktalk.org on Facebook 



BookTalk.org is a free book discussion group or online reading group or book club. We read and talk about both fiction and non-fiction books as a group. We host live author chats where booktalk members can interact with and interview authors. We give away free books to our members in book giveaway contests. Our booktalks are open to everybody who enjoys talking about books. Our book forums include book reviews, author interviews and book resources for readers and book lovers. Discussing books is our passion. We're a literature forum, or reading forum. Register a free book club account today! Suggest nonfiction and fiction books. Authors and publishers are welcome to advertise their books or ask for an author chat or author interview.


Navigation 
MAIN NAVIGATION

HOMEFORUMSBOOKSTRANSCRIPTSOLD FORUMSADVERTISELINKSFAQDONATETERMS OF USEPRIVACY POLICY

BOOK FORUMS FOR ALL BOOKS WE HAVE DISCUSSED
Sense and Goodness Without God - by Richard CarrierFrankenstein - by Mary ShelleyThe Big Questions - by Simon BlackburnScience Was Born of Christianity - by Stacy TrasancosThe Happiness Hypothesis - by Jonathan HaidtA Game of Thrones - by George R. R. MartinTempesta's Dream - by Vincent LoCocoWhy Nations Fail - by Daron Acemoglu and James RobinsonThe Drowning Girl - Caitlin R. KiernanThe Consolations of the Forest - by Sylvain TessonThe Complete Heretic's Guide to Western Religion: The Mormons - by David FitzgeraldA Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man - by James JoyceThe Divine Comedy - by Dante AlighieriThe Magic of Reality - by Richard DawkinsDubliners - by James JoyceMy Name Is Red - by Orhan PamukThe World Until Yesterday - by Jared DiamondThe Man Who Was Thursday - by by G. K. ChestertonThe Better Angels of Our Nature by Steven PinkerLord Jim by Joseph ConradThe Hobbit by J. R. R. TolkienThe Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas AdamsAtlas Shrugged by Ayn RandThinking, Fast and Slow - by Daniel KahnemanThe Righteous Mind - by Jonathan HaidtWorld War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War by Max BrooksMoby Dick: or, the Whale by Herman MelvilleA Visit from the Goon Squad by Jennifer EganLost Memory of Skin: A Novel by Russell BanksThe Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. KuhnHobbes: Leviathan by Thomas HobbesThe House of the Spirits - by Isabel AllendeArguably: Essays by Christopher HitchensThe Falls: A Novel (P.S.) by Joyce Carol OatesChrist in Egypt by D.M. MurdockThe Glass Bead Game: A Novel by Hermann HesseA Devil's Chaplain by Richard DawkinsThe Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph CampbellThe Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor DostoyevskyThe Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark TwainThe Moral Landscape by Sam HarrisThe Decameron by Giovanni BoccaccioThe Road by Cormac McCarthyThe Grand Design by Stephen HawkingThe Evolution of God by Robert WrightThe Tin Drum by Gunter GrassGood Omens by Neil GaimanPredictably Irrational by Dan ArielyThe Wind-Up Bird Chronicle: A Novel by Haruki MurakamiALONE: Orphaned on the Ocean by Richard Logan & Tere Duperrault FassbenderDon Quixote by Miguel De CervantesMusicophilia by Oliver SacksDiary of a Madman and Other Stories by Nikolai GogolThe Passion of the Western Mind by Richard TarnasThe Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le GuinThe Genius of the Beast by Howard BloomAlice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll Empire of Illusion by Chris HedgesThe Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner The Extended Phenotype by Richard DawkinsSmoke and Mirrors by Neil GaimanThe Selfish Gene by Richard DawkinsWhen Good Thinking Goes Bad by Todd C. RinioloHouse of Leaves by Mark Z. DanielewskiAmerican Gods: A Novel by Neil GaimanPrimates and Philosophers by Frans de WaalThe Enormous Room by E.E. CummingsThe Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar WildeGod Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher HitchensThe Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama Paradise Lost by John Milton Bad Money by Kevin PhillipsThe Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson BurnettGodless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists by Dan BarkerThe Things They Carried by Tim O'BrienThe Limits of Power by Andrew BacevichLolita by Vladimir NabokovOrlando by Virginia Woolf On Being Certain by Robert A. Burton50 reasons people give for believing in a god by Guy P. HarrisonWalden: Or, Life in the Woods by Henry David ThoreauExile and the Kingdom by Albert CamusOur Inner Ape by Frans de WaalYour Inner Fish by Neil ShubinNo Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthyThe Age of American Unreason by Susan JacobyTen Theories of Human Nature by Leslie Stevenson & David HabermanHeart of Darkness by Joseph ConradThe Stuff of Thought by Stephen PinkerA Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled HosseiniThe Lucifer Effect by Philip ZimbardoResponsibility and Judgment by Hannah ArendtInterventions by Noam ChomskyGodless in America by George A. RickerReligious Expression and the American Constitution by Franklyn S. HaimanDeep Economy by Phil McKibbenThe God Delusion by Richard DawkinsThe Third Chimpanzee by Jared DiamondThe Woman in the Dunes by Abe KoboEvolution vs. Creationism by Eugenie C. ScottThe Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael PollanI, Claudius by Robert GravesBreaking The Spell by Daniel C. DennettA Peace to End All Peace by David FromkinThe Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey NiffeneggerThe End of Faith by Sam HarrisEnder's Game by Orson Scott CardThe Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark HaddonValue and Virtue in a Godless Universe by Erik J. WielenbergThe March by E. L DoctorowThe Ethical Brain by Michael GazzanigaFreethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan JacobyCollapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed by Jared DiamondThe Battle for God by Karen ArmstrongThe Future of Life by Edward O. WilsonWhat is Good? by A. C. GraylingCivilization and Its Enemies by Lee HarrisPale Blue Dot by Carl SaganHow We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God by Michael ShermerLooking for Spinoza by Antonio DamasioLies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them by Al FrankenThe Red Queen by Matt RidleyThe Blank Slate by Stephen PinkerUnweaving the Rainbow by Richard DawkinsAtheism: A Reader edited by S.T. JoshiGlobal Brain by Howard BloomThe Lucifer Principle by Howard BloomGuns, Germs and Steel by Jared DiamondThe Demon-Haunted World by Carl SaganBury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee BrownFuture Shock by Alvin Toffler

OTHER PAGES WORTH EXPLORING
Banned Book ListOur Amazon.com SalesMassimo Pigliucci Rationally SpeakingOnline Reading GroupTop 10 Atheism BooksFACTS Book Selections

cron
Copyright © BookTalk.org 2002-2014. All rights reserved.
Website developed by MidnightCoder.ca
Display Pagerank