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VI- Heart of Darkness: the title.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:52 pm
by Ophelia
VI- The title, "Heart of Darkness".

What does the title mean?


What does "dark" mean in HD?
( Africa was known as "the Dark Continent " during the Victorian era.)

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:53 pm
by DWill
The title has become almost a cliche, hasn't it? What does it mean, though? This is where the novel is suggestive, not leaning too much on any one interpretation. If we keep in mind the historical background Ophelia provided, we might incline toward the belief that the human heart is capable of great atrocity even while espousing the noblest-sounding motives. What the Europeans perpetrated shows the inhumanity deep within our nature. Is that the horror that Kurtz refers to in his last words?

The heart of darkness has a more literal meaning at one point, when the drumbeats are likened to the beating of this heart of darkness. Throughout the novel, progressing further into the interior of the Congo is compared to advancing deeper, toward the heart, of this dark place.

An aspect of darkness I'm not sure of is that of the culture of the native people. Is that in itself an aspect of darkness, in the view of Marlow? I tend to think not. He sees them as primitive and unindividuated, definitely in rascist terms, but probably thinks they are neither better nor worse by nature than anyone else. I wonder whether Marlow undergoes a change of attitude when his helmsman dies almost in his arms. He realizes a connection that he hadn't before, but Conrad is probably too honest a writer make too much of this event. There is still a gulf between the two cultures.

The struggle between good and evil

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:36 am
by Ophelia
This leads us to the theme of the struggle between good and evil

(or light and darkness) within:


- Marlow's mind/soul.



- Kurtz's mind/soul.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:42 pm
by Ibid
Marlow has always seen the land of Africa, blank on his map as being without a history and therefore dark. There is the darkness of the jungle off to the sides of the river. I believe at the time of Conrad's writing Africa was still called the Dark Continent. I think this is also an allusion to the darkness that exists within people.
Kurtz has given up what Marlow sees as the "outside" world to live within the "darkness" of this foreign land.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:25 am
by Penelope
Africa was known as the Dark Continent then and to some extent, I think it still is.

There are still dreadful atroceties happening in the Congo right now today. Although Botswana sounds like quite a jolly place, at last reading.

Mma Ramotswe in No.1 Ladies Detective Agency - loves Botswana and obviously thinks her village is the only place to live. When considering where God sends the wicked people - to Hell? She reckons it is somewhere like Nigeria!!! :lol: That is because it is the neighbouring country to Botswana. We, in Lancashire are the same about Yorkshire.. ;-)

I think Conrad was considering his own feelings of helplessness and feeling lost. He had tried to commit suicide at an earlier time, so the poor man was obviously not a little ray of sunshine himself.

Whether he was referring to the heart of darkness in all of us is hard to decide although many novelists have used this as a theme - ie Lord of the Flies. Scratch the surface of any one of us and you will find a savage and a barbarian.....so they say.

There were many books written later - some saying that all the evil in the world was within mankind and that we could rise above that - any of us. Others argued that there were actually evil people (irredemable). That there actually is an identifiable evil force in the World. I used to disagree strongly with the latter, but I have began to doubt that stance now, in the light of some media reports over the last few years.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:05 pm
by WildCityWoman
DWill wrote:He sees them as primitive and unindividuated, definitely in rascist terms, but probably thinks they are neither better nor worse by nature than anyone else.
That doesn't make him racist - they are 'primitive' as compared to his own society, but that isn't a racist thought.

If he thinks they are no better or worse than anyone else, then he sees them as equals.

The word 'racist' is sometimes pinned on someone who so much as disagrees with something a black person has said.

People have often made the mistake of thinking of a society so much different than our own as being 'deficient', 'inferior', because they haven't figured out how to modernize with electricity and automatic tools.

Who is to say?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:17 pm
by WildCityWoman
I think the 'darkness' is all that we do not know or understand.

if i remember correctly

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:56 pm
by ginof
when i read this book in my 2nd year of secondary school (that would be 1977/78, part of the class was the discussion of the three different kinds of conflict in writing: man v nature, man v. man, man v. self. Part of what makes this story so interesting is the way that all of these conflicts occur within the short span of the story.

It's the same with the idea of the 'heart of darkness' The darkness here can apply to all three levels. Man v nature is man conquesting the unknown (dark, as in dark ages) parts of the planet, which during the period of the writing would have been a relevant topic. man v man is the story of kurtz and marlow and the story of man v self is kurtz v his own nature i.e. turning into a cannabal and marlow v his self in what does he tell others about what he saw after telling us he hates lying.

i think it is the idea of the complexity of the story that has made this a classic on the literature circuit.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:49 pm
by DWill
wildcitywoman,

Well, yes, I can see how you saw inconsistency in that statement of mine. I do still think that to posit certain differences between races of people (some would say so-called races), is to be a racist in a literal sense, though not necessarily in the very loaded sense that we have used for the past 50 years or so. And I had in mind that Marlowe did not think the Africans to be morally worse than the Europeans (how could he, seeing what they were up to). But I didn't make that clear.

Will

Re: VI- Heart of Darkness: the title.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:35 pm
by killax415
I think that the Africans are surrounded by plenty of deaths and it turns their world into chaos because of the unimaginable horror that is taking place in Africa. They are looking for something in all that darkness and chaos, they are looking for help someone thats good and that is the heart. The bad thing is that the heart is tainted by darkness and thats what the title Heart of Darkness means. They are looking for help in someones heart, but don't realize its tainted by darkness so there really isn't any help.