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Who will be reading?

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:53 pm
by Mr. P
Just got my copy from the library today.

Mr. P.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:00 pm
by seeker
I will be reading the book. I have ordered it from Amazon, but haven't received it yet.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:09 am
by jales4
I'm waiting for my copy to come from Chapters Indigo. It should be here by the middle of next week.

I have done quite a bit of online reading about the experiment though.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:33 pm
by JulianTheApostate
I read the book previously and will lead the discussion.

The Lucifer Effect

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:59 am
by Aubrey.Alexis
I have been away since The Omnivore's Dilemma, but I plan on reading this book. I'll pick it up this week!

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:11 pm
by Ophelia
I've ordered a copy but I'll have to wait another week or two, which is a shame.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:59 am
by Chris OConnor
I'm somewhere a little after page 100 right now. This book is hard to put down once you start reading about the actual Stanford Prison Experiment. I'm writing down questions for Dr. Zimbardo as I progress through the book. Looks like I am in agreement with much of what Nick has been saying about the design of this experiment.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:02 am
by Mr. P
Chris OConnor wrote:I'm somewhere a little after page 100 right now. This book is hard to put down once you start reading about the actual Stanford Prison Experiment. I'm writing down questions for Dr. Zimbardo as I progress through the book. Looks like I am in agreement with much of what Nick has been saying about the design of this experiment.
Funny, once I got past the SPE I lost a little interest. I will finish the book though. I have less than 200 pages left.

I just really have a hard time believing I would fall for any of this stuff. The shock experiments and other experiments seem to me to show just how sheepish much of humanity is. Followers. I COULD be wrong, but since that does not happen often, I tend to think I am not. LOL

Seriously though...I am one who does NOT do something just because authority tells me to do something. In fact, I revel in the chance to confront authority when presented with orders that are just dictated as opposed to being explained and justified. It causes me hardship in life, because I tend to put off those in charge (and thus I am usually not the recipient of many rewards), but I just dont care.

Mr. P.

Don't we all love orders?

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:50 am
by Ophelia
In fact, I revel in the chance to confront authority when presented with orders that are just dictated as opposed to being explained and justified.
My style lies less on confrontation, and a lot on active resistance.

I must say that the many orders I got over the years from the Ministry of Education were explained (at great length) and justified... from their point of view!
One problem is that I have become so wary of the rhetoric and new ideas on education "entirely based on the development of Education Sciences" (as opposed to securing votes or saving money) that it actually becomes difficult to keep an open mind.

A few years ago, I heard two of my colleagues discussing an idea which had reached pupils' contemporary history textbooks. I felt suspicious about the phrasing (new government slogan? Political correctness?) . Among the two colleagues, one had political opinions I often disagreed with, and the other was actually married to a high-ranking official at the Ministry-- I thought their whole-hearted endorsement was a clear signal for me to reject the whole thing, and I did just that (but kept silent about it).
After a year, it turned out that my colleagues had been right , and I felt rather foolish for my ealier dismissal-without-consideration .
I'll never know whether whoever had the textbooks changed had been sincere, but still, a good idea is a good idea.