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The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:52 pm
by Suzanne
The House of the Spirits
Isabel Allende

Clara the Clairvoyant

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:20 am
by heledd
Ahh! I suddenly saw the connection between Barrabas the dog, and Esteban in this chapter, and on re- reading it, discovered that it was not Esteban’s love for Clara that changed Esteban’s whoring ways, but the realisation that his mother loved him dearly, and that the poverty and deprivation of his younger years were not maliciously intended on her part. ‘Mama,’ Esteban murmured, and his voice broke in his chest, exploding into a contained sobbing that erased in a single stroke his sad memories, and greasy soup of his impoverished childhood . . .’ He also realises how much he does, in fact love his mother, and the grief and guilt he feels at his neglect of her are tangible.
Barrabas, the dog has the same enormous sexual appetite and disregard for the female of his species as Esteban . When there was a bitch in heat in the environs, he would ‘hurl himself onto the street, overcoming every obstacle in his path, and remain at large for two or three days. He always returned with the poor bitch hanging off him, suspended in the air, impaled on his immense masculinity……’ When they were eventually hosed free, ‘Barrabas became unstuck from his beloved, leaving her to die in the courtyard of the house . . . .’
Esteban takes the place of Barrabas the dog, always trying to please Clara with gifts, and hoping to win her love. Any bets on who killed the dog? Mine would be on Esteban. He would have been insanely jealous of any love that Clara did not devote to him. He knew Clara had not married out of love.

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:00 am
by heledd
Mind you, I also suspected Nana. She had previously tried to poison Barrabas, but the cod liver oil 'gave him a four-day case of diarrhea that covered the house from top to bottom and that she herself had to clean'. I don't think she would have stuck a knife in him, she was a more surreptitious killer, and that method would have upset Clara too much. In fact, on re-reading, I don't think that Esteban's skinning of the dog and turning him into a mat was, as I first thought, grossly unfeeling and inconsiderate. I think it was a deliberate and triumphant statement.

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:30 pm
by kelstan
I think the dog-skin rug was really an attempt by Esteban to please Clara - I think he thought she would love it. Ferula said, "I told you she wouldn't like it." Inferring, Esteban thought she would like it. He simply didn't understand that the rug could only be a terrible reminder of a horrible loss. I believe most people would empathize with Clara in this situation - I doubt most of us have made rugs of our beloved pets - and I think it shows how Esteban lacks empathy and a "normal" set of emotions.

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:43 am
by heledd
Kelstan - I put a query into Google and apparently some people do stuff their pets. Totally creepy. There are even a few videos on Youtube, but I was too squeamish to watch!

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:03 am
by kelstan
Yes, some people will do anything, but I think most of us would see that as "icky." Did you know you can have a sweater or blanket made from your pet's hair? You just collect it until you have enough and they spin it and knit you whatever. Gross!

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:03 am
by heledd
Who do you reckon killed the dog? Someone unknown in the celebrations? The same person who tried to poison Severo? it certainly put a dramatic end to the celebrations, so perhaps not Esteban then.

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:10 am
by Robert Tulip
As I read it, the death of Barrabas, running to meet Clara at her engagement party with a large butcher's knife in his back, was a rather surreal omen and mystery. I don't recall reading any clues as to the culprit.

It is all very similar to the death of Rosa, which is also an unsolved mystery, and perhaps also to the big unsolved mystery of how Chile allowed the military coup in 1973.

If the people and the oligarchs imagine they can be happily married, they have another thing coming. There is deep hatred and violence lurking beneath the surface. The House of the Spirits symbolises the meeting of the legitimate extremes of Chilean society. For a clairvoyant with leftist tendencies to marry a business man and aspiring conservative politician is rather disturbing. No wonder the symbol of the lucky escape from the cross also meets a similar fate as the one he was chosen instead of.

Maybe someone is saying they do not want the wedding to happen.

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:09 am
by Damifino
heledd wrote:Ahh!
Esteban takes the place of Barrabas the dog, always trying to please Clara with gifts, and hoping to win her love. Any bets on who killed the dog? Mine would be on Esteban. He would have been insanely jealous of any love that Clara did not devote to him. He knew Clara had not married out of love.
He may of been behind it. Had someone else do the killing. But on page 20 it says this..."It was said that he would not stop growing, and that if a butcher's cruelty had not put an end to his existence, he would have reached the size of a camel."

Re: The House of the Spirits; Clara the Clairvoyant

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:47 am
by heledd
I don't recall reading any clues as to the culprit.
I thought that was rather mean of Allende, actually!. I don't think there could have been any objection to the marriage. Clara and Esteban are of the same class, although of very different temperments. They are very similar to Nivea and Severo. I loved the hypocrisy Allende exposes in her description of the Pantagruelian feast (I had to look the word up) at the exchange of rings. This lavish feast was served with the utmost simplicity by servants wearing their everyday black aprons '...because any display of extravagance was a sign of vulgarity that would be condemned as a sin of vanity and bad taste, according to the austere and somewhat lugubrious ancestry of that society descended from hard working Basque and Spanish immigrants'
Now if Esteban had married Transito Soto, the prostitute, and Clara had married the peasant Pedro Segunda Garcia, that would have caused outrage (although they did seem to be soul mates)