The Secret Garden: Chapters 19, 20 and 21
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Chapter 19 http://www.online-literature.com/burnet ... garden/19/
Chapter 20 http://www.online-literature.com/burnet ... garden/20/
Chapter 21 http://www.online-literature.com/burnet ... garden/21/
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The Secret Garden: Chapters 19, 20 and 21
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Colin is increasingly imperious in these chapters, the young rajah. I found myself cheering for him despite this imperiousness and it does advance the plot by providing a cover for their secret activities. The link back to Mary's days in India is evident, perhaps reinforcing the degree of change in both Mary and Colin.
This book has a strong sense of place. The moors, the Yorkshire language and rural culture but I'm wondering if Burnett is suggesting that the healing/development process that Mary and Colin undergo is specific to this place? Could this healing have happened in India or in the US where she wrote the book? Is "the Magic" locational or somehow tailored to that specific environment?
This book has a strong sense of place. The moors, the Yorkshire language and rural culture but I'm wondering if Burnett is suggesting that the healing/development process that Mary and Colin undergo is specific to this place? Could this healing have happened in India or in the US where she wrote the book? Is "the Magic" locational or somehow tailored to that specific environment?
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There are a few references to the heat of India as being unhealthy. I think it is a very British attitude about the healing power of cool air. Babies are put outside in their prams to nap in the cool fresh air because it is considered healthy. I have heard houses are kept much cooler in Britain than in US and Canada because of this idea.Could this healing have happened in India or in the US where she wrote the book?
Also, as you said, the closeness of nature in this setting, of new life, the moors, and the rural culture is this setting is considered to be a healing force. It reminds me of the book Heidi, where Heidi brings the invalid Clara to the mountain sure that the mountain will make her well. And it does, the fresh mountain air, the goats, the fresh goats milk, and Alm Uncle (crusty old man who lost love, just like Mr Craven) make her well.
I have to say I agree. Nature is healing.
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I was a breech birth baby, born with lung damage, and on the baby doctor's instruction was raised in an unheated room with chimney and windows open. I remember waking up to snow on the floor. At least part of the time I had an electric blanket so was warm in bed. Birds regularly fell down the chimney or flew in the windows and would circle overhead before finding their way out a window. A cousin who teased me for having birds in the bedroom has long been dead from poor health, and I continue on.realiz wrote:I think it is a very British attitude about the healing power of cool air. Babies are put outside in their prams to nap in the cool fresh air because it is considered healthy. . .I have to say I agree. Nature is healing.
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The healing power of nature is fine, but when it comes indoors perhaps it gets a bit tedious. And British houses are famously drafty and cold but I doubt this is due to a belief in the healthiness of cool air but rather due to a tendency to build poor houses with inadequate heating systems, at least this is what my british relatives and friends tell me.
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Each place has its specific magic in the sense Burnett describes, which is really rather taoist. The Taoist view is that magic is about being true to nature, and human cultural basis in nature is distorted by freedom to go against the tao. The Secret Garden, because of its fertility and neglect, is vastly more natural than the artificial surrounds of english society. The idea is that things left to themselves evolve into ever greater complexity, and this natural complexity has a magical quality. The garden is in tune with the tao.giselle wrote:This book has a strong sense of place. The moors, the Yorkshire language and rural culture but I'm wondering if Burnett is suggesting that the healing/development process that Mary and Colin undergo is specific to this place? Could this healing have happened in India or in the US where she wrote the book? Is "the Magic" locational or somehow tailored to that specific environment?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao suggests everything is a manifestation of tao. The problem is that people have ideas which reject their natural identity, and these ideas are both a source of dynamic growth and of alienation and suffering.
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I don't know if this is entirely true about the Secret Garden as there are hints that it has not really been left to itself, and the garden itself begins to improve and come alive as the children spend the time tending it. The magic grows as they lovingly prune and weed and let the magic loose. There is a duality to this which maybe matches the Tao idea.The idea is that things left to themselves evolve into ever greater complexity, and this natural complexity has a magical quality.
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You are right, this comment needs clarification. People are a part of nature, and the complexity of the secret garden, which of course is itself an artificial human creation with its walls and plantings, includes the interaction with humans. The absence of humans over ten years has allowed the artifice to revert to the wild to some extent, and this reversion is a part of the magical quality. Natural wilderness with plants that are hundreds of years old has an even more intricate complexity than this artificial example, and displays the tao of nature even more clearly, if people care to look. The robin signals that the garden is somehow yearning for the return of humans, and for people to participate in the cosmic harmony of the garden. This reminds me of Woodstock by Joni Mitchellrealiz wrote:RTI don't know if this is entirely true about the Secret Garden as there are hints that it has not really been left to itself, and the garden itself begins to improve and come alive as the children spend the time tending it. The magic grows as they lovingly prune and weed and let the magic loose. There is a duality to this which maybe matches the Tao idea.The idea is that things left to themselves evolve into ever greater complexity, and this natural complexity has a magical quality.
I came upon a child of god
He was walking along the road
And I asked him, where are you going
And this he told me
Im going on down to yasgurs farm
Im going to join in a rock n roll band
Im going to camp out on the land
Im going to try an get my soul free
We are stardust
We are golden
And weve got to get ourselves
Back to the garden
Then can I walk beside you
I have come here to lose the smog
And I feel to be a cog in something turning
Well maybe it is just the time of year
Or maybe its the time of man
I dont know who l am
But you know life is for learning
We are stardust
We are golden
And weve got to get ourselves
Back to the garden
By the time we got to woodstock
We were half a million strong
And everywhere there was song and celebration
And I dreamed I saw the bombers
Riding shotgun in the sky
And they were turning into butterflies
Above our nation
We are stardust
Billion year old carbon
We are golden
Caught in the devils bargain
And weve got to get ourselves
Back to the garden
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Here is a Theosophical view on getting back to the garden:Robert Tulip wrote:And weve got to get ourselves
Back to the garden
http://www.theosophical.org/resources/a ... ndings.pdf
The Influence of Surroundings by Charles W. Leadbeater