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I am so proud to be an American in the state of Pennsylvania! Both the governor and senator who were backed by the tea party won last night! If you look at a map of the country, the Republicans beat out the Democrats big-time!! I have been a tea party activist for a very long time and the best news of all is that Nancy Pelosi was dethrowned last night!

So it looks like a good part of our country does not approve of what our president has done or not done in the past two years! I am sorry for those of you who didn't believe me and have more faith in the tea party, but since they really paid off, hopefully more people will join our activism. Come January, things will be better, especially without Pelosi. She has voted too many times with the president so not only is this a victory for the tea party but a victory for all American citizens.

So, if in all my other posts I spoke of how the tea party has really taken off, and for those who didn't believe me, it worked! Some non-tea party activists snuck in and won but, predominantly Republican governors and senators won last night. some people on here lamb-bashed me for being the tea party activist that I am and those people know to stay away from my posts. This really happened last night and the people that disagree with me are now probably kicking themselves for not listening and little closer!



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I agree that last night was a good night but we need to be careful not to cast it as too much of an us vs them scenario. When I was a lad there was a strong conservative element in the Democratic Party. Over the years that conservatism has significantly dimished but it is still present. The Tea Party has always been about reforming government and fiscal responsibility.


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I agree that last night was a good night but we need to be careful not to cast it as too much of an us vs them scenario. When I was a lad there was a strong conservative element in the Democratic Party. Over the years that conservatism has significantly dimished but it is still present. The Tea Party has always been about reforming government and fiscal responsibility.


star....I now know that with time we'll find out for sure if this tea party system really works. I have been an activist for so long now, and I know I'm jumping the gun in my last post, but I really believe that what happened last night is a victory! Just the fact that Nancy Pelosi was booted off the island as they say on survivor, she can put out her torch and leave the island immediately! As you can tell, she is not one of my favorite people... she ranks down there along with Obama!



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it isn't that we didn't believe that the republicans would get seats, its that we don't trust the candidates that the tea party has put forward.


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I had no illusions about how the elections would go. The outcome was more or less as I thought it would be. Unfortunately we're now worse off than we were before. More tax breaks to the rich, more complaining that we can't afford certain things(which we could if the rich were taxed), and more blaming things on the wrong people.

Why would you complain about health care? What is the chief concern? Why would you blame unemployment on the current administration? Cause and effect across a nation works in years. We'll start feeling the effects of Obama soon.



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I had no illusions about how the elections would go. The outcome was more or less as I thought it would be. Unfortunately we're now worse off than we were before. More tax breaks to the rich, more complaining that we can't afford certain things(which we could if the rich were taxed), and more blaming things on the wrong people.

Why would you complain about health care? What is the chief concern? Why would you blame unemployment on the current administration? Cause and effect across a nation works in years. We'll start feeling the effects of Obama soon.



my complaint about the health-care reform is the entire health-care reform. First of all, there are too many other things going on such as getting people back to work, to help people who are in jeopardy of losing their homes, bail out of the banks and then complaining that there is no money left in this country to do anything else. I am a parent of two children. One of them is already in college but he goes to community college because of the cost of the universities. Our other child, is a senior in high school. The major she wants to take will be about eight more years of study. To save money, since the government has not been very thrifty where we are concerned, she will also start her first two years at community college and then transfer. We are hoping that by the time she graduates community college, funding will be more readily available through the government. This will only happen if something is done NOW!!!!!! I. know not all of you are in a position that my family is. I am 100% disabled and my husband, even though he is working, does not make a lot of money. For the government including the state to deny us the money we need so that our children can go to a four-year university, is just wrong! Obama said from the very beginning that there would be provisions for each and every child in this nation to be able to go to college and get the education that they need. So, what happened to that?

He has made way too many promises and the only thing he fulfilled was Obama care which is a huge mess!!!!!!! there are so many loopholes in it, that just because everybody thinks that we will be covered, doesn't mean that a hard time will be given when necessary tests are needed. Also, do you want the government to be able to access your private medical files? What happened to the privacy act? I don't know about you but my private medical records should be kept between my primary doctor and myself. I think I touched upon only a few of the things that the tea party is doing to try to correct. It will probably take some time to undo the mess that Obama has given us, so now it is just a wait-and-see approach. I do believe highly in the tea party and how they plan to undo a huge mess that this country is now left with. Do not blame this on Bush. The economy may not have been great when he left office but.... it was not this bad!



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my complaint about the health-care reform is the entire health-care reform. First of all, there are too many other things going on such as getting people back to work, to help people who are in jeopardy of losing their homes, bail out of the banks and then complaining that there is no money left in this country to do anything else.


You say the health care reform is the problem, then you go on to mention other problems. Whatever money the health care reform would cost taxpayers, it could be repaid many times over if we stopped putting people into power such as the tea partiers. They are pawns of big business, and support lower taxes for rich people. The problem is not how much health care reform costs us, but that is an easy target for rich people's propaganda to take our eyes away from them paying more taxes. It's like a fat guy going in to a doctor's office, and the doctor tells him that his knees are bad, but not mentioning that his knees are bad because of his weight. To solve the true problem, the man should lose weight. Then it turns out the doctor is the owner of the fat man's favorite fat food restaurant.

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I do believe highly in the tea party and how they plan to undo a huge mess that this country is now left with.


The people who represent the tea party are the ones responsible for the mess we're in. Cutting regulation on the financial industry is a far right agenda. That lack of regulation lead to the bubble then the burst, and the current mess we're in. You're swallowing the crap fed to you through Fox news. It's nothing but a propaganda machine, owned by Rupert Murdock.

In recent years, Australian-born billionaire Rupert Murdoch has used the U.S. government's increasingly lax media regulations to consolidate his hold over the media and wider political debate in America. Consider Murdoch's empire: According to Businessweek, "his satellites deliver TV programs in five continents, all but dominating Britain, Italy, and wide swaths of Asia and the Middle East. He publishes 175 newspapers, including the New York Post and The Times of London. In the U.S., he owns the Twentieth Century Fox Studio, Fox Network, and 35 TV stations that reach more than 40% of the country...His cable channels include fast-growing Fox News, and 19 regional sports channels. In all, as many as one in five American homes at any given time will be tuned into a show News Corp. either produced or delivered." But who is the real Rupert Murdoch? As this report shows, he is a far-right partisan who has used his empire explicitly to pull American political debate to the right. He is also an enabler of the oppressive tactics employed by dictatorial regimes, and a man who admits to having hidden money in tax havens. In short, there more to Rupert Murdoch than meets the eye.
In 2003, Rupert Murdoch told a congressional panel that his use of "political influence in our newspapers or television" is "nonsense." But a close look at the record shows Murdoch has imparted his far-right agenda throughout his media empire.
MURDOCH THE WAR MONGER: Just after the Iraq invasion, the New York Times reported, "The war has illuminated anew the exceptional power in the hands of Murdoch, 72, the chairman of News Corp… In the last several months, the editorial policies of almost all his English-language news organizations have hewn very closely to Murdoch's own stridently hawkish political views, making his voice among the loudest in the Anglophone world in the international debate over the American-led war with Iraq." The Guardian reported before the war Murdoch gave "his full backing to war, praising George Bush as acting 'morally' and 'correctly' and describing Tony Blair as 'full of guts'" for his support of the war. Murdoch said just before the war, "We can't back down now – I think Bush is acting very morally, very correctly." [New York Times, 4/9/03; Guardian, 2/12/03]
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. . .We are hoping that by the time she graduates community college, funding will be more readily available through the government. . This will only happen if something is done NOW!!!!!!


You do know the Republicans are about smaller government, right? So you're an avid tea partier, but what you ultimately want is more government subsidies? Maybe you're backing the wrong horse, fellow.

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I think I touched upon only a few of the things that the tea party is doing to try to correct. It will probably take some time to undo the mess that Obama has given us, so now it is just a wait-and-see approach. I do believe highly in the tea party and how they plan to undo a huge mess that this country is now left with. Do not blame this on Bush. The economy may not have been great when he left office but.... it was not this bad!


Let me guess. You watch FOXNews on a regular basis. Do you really believe that Obama messed up the economy in two years? How? With stimulus spending? Or the bank bailouts that were actually initiated by Bush? The Health care bill hasn't even been fully implemented yet, so it hardly seems possible this is what torpedoed our economy. Do you think for yourself at all?


first of all, I am a woman not a fellow as you so called me. I honestly don't watch that much of Fox news. And yes, I believe that Obama did mess up the economy big-time! Ex-President Bush did start it and I won't blame it all on Obama, but, Obama has made it much worse. I am not backing the wrong horse,'fellow'. Maybe you don't understand what the tea party is all about. Maybe you should read up on it more. you are wrong about one thing... part of Obamacare has already taken place. My children can stay on the plan until they are 26. That is the only issue I agree on. My son, who is almost 21, could have gotten insurance from his employer even though he only works part time. So, that was a big waste of time trying to pass that part of the bill right away! I absolutely am dead set against Obama care as it stands today! As I mentioned in my last post, I do not want the government to have access to my private healthcare file!



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when you start treating me as a woman that I am, which I feel is part of your problem, then I will continue this conversation. I don't care who you are, women were given the right to vote and have plenty to say and are just as knowledgeable as men. When you apologize to me, I will continue our conversation. Until then, remember the tea party movement just wants the country back to the way it was before Obama came into office. I know he isn't all to blame but he took a bad situation and made it much worse. Honestly, and not because I am a woman, I would've voted for Hillary. I was so sorry when she dropped out of the race. The reason I am a Republican is because at this point the Democrats have screwed up enough and it's time that the Republicans, especially the tea party to try and straighten us all out. I am done conversing with you into the sexist remark you made to me. You knew damn well from my profile that I am a woman! End of discussion



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first of all, I am a woman not a fellow as you so called me. I honestly don't watch that much of Fox news. And yes, I believe that Obama did mess up the economy big-time! Ex-President Bush did start it and I won't blame it all on Obama, but, Obama has made it much worse. I am not backing the wrong horse,'fellow'. Maybe you don't understand what the tea party is all about. Maybe you should read up on it more. you are wrong about one thing... part of Obamacare has already taken place. My children can stay on the plan until they are 26. That is the only issue I agree on. My son, who is almost 21, could have gotten insurance from his employer even though he only works part time. So, that was a big waste of time trying to pass that part of the bill right away! I absolutely am dead set against Obama care as it stands today! As I mentioned in my last post, I do not want the government to have access to my private healthcare file!


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I am a parent of two children. One of them is already in college but he goes to community college because of the cost of the universities. Our other child, is a senior in high school. The major she wants to take will be about eight more years of study. To save money, since the government has not been very thrifty where we are concerned, she will also start her first two years at community college and then transfer.


You say this over and over again. I'm in the same boat. I have a daughter in college, and a HS senior.

Your children have not been offered merit money, or any type of scholarships to help with the cost of tuition?

start here:
http://www.collegescholarships.org/

or here:
http://www.ehow.com/about_6568232_grant ... arent.html


A parent can't wait for a check from the government to come in the mail. A parent needs to work hard to find money available to students. And there is money for students. Many colleges give grant money, and most give merit money. Your senior's HS counselor can give advice about scholarships available through the school and your local community. Admission departments of colleges and universities are a great resource for information about how to obtain money for your student, including grant money. You will not recieve anything if you do not do YOUR homework and apply for these scholarships and grants.

My son is a senior in HS. I understand the amount of time and effort it takes to find money for a student. And it does require WORK! I suggest spending more time and effort in researching resources and spending less time moaning and groaning.


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when you start treating me as a woman that I am, which I feel is part of your problem, then I will continue this conversation.


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The reason I am a Republican is because at this point the Democrats have screwed up enough and it's time that the Republicans, especially the tea party to try and straighten us all out.


You really need to wake up. The Republicans got us into this mess. We are feeling the effects of the Republican screw ups right now. The only thing you can say about what Obama is doing is how it might be in a few years, and that would be nothing but speculation at this point. These changes take a long time to culminate.



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I am glad you are happy Phillies. I truly hope that the people you voted for do a good job in office. We will see... But maybe this will be good. Maybe having a Republican house will inspire people to work together. It seems that they can either learn to work together and get a lot done, or they will spend the next two years fighting and getting nothing done. Hopefully it is the former.

I do not agree with you that the tea party would support you in wanting to help people with tuition. And a major part of Obama's campaign was to get health care reform passed. He only has four years to do this and health care is something that has been only a dream in this country since the 30's. I am not entirely happy with the bill either; I wanted a public option. But, this bill gets something on the table. And you know that having universal health care would create jobs, right? I am not sure what the fear is about the government having access to our private medical records. I have not thought about it but I doubt that with or without the bill we could prevent the government from having access to this information. HIPPA protects general people from having access to your private information. I am not sure what the current regulation is for the government. They may need a subpoena for this information, but even if they do manage to get this information what is the fear?



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Moby Dick: or, the Whale by Herman MelvilleA Visit from the Goon Squad by Jennifer EganLost Memory of Skin: A Novel by Russell BanksThe Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. KuhnHobbes: Leviathan by Thomas HobbesThe House of the Spirits - by Isabel AllendeArguably: Essays by Christopher HitchensThe Falls: A Novel (P.S.) by Joyce Carol OatesChrist in Egypt by D.M. MurdockThe Glass Bead Game: A Novel by Hermann HesseA Devil's Chaplain by Richard DawkinsThe Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph CampbellThe Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor DostoyevskyThe Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark TwainThe Moral Landscape by Sam HarrisThe Decameron by Giovanni BoccaccioThe Road by Cormac McCarthyThe Grand Design by Stephen HawkingThe Evolution of God by Robert WrightThe Tin Drum by Gunter GrassGood Omens by Neil GaimanPredictably Irrational by Dan ArielyThe Wind-Up Bird Chronicle: A Novel by Haruki MurakamiALONE: Orphaned on the Ocean by Richard Logan & Tere Duperrault FassbenderDon Quixote by Miguel De CervantesMusicophilia by Oliver SacksDiary of a Madman and Other Stories by Nikolai GogolThe Passion of the Western Mind by Richard TarnasThe Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le GuinThe Genius of the Beast by Howard BloomAlice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll Empire of Illusion by Chris HedgesThe Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner The Extended Phenotype by Richard DawkinsSmoke and Mirrors by Neil GaimanThe Selfish Gene by Richard DawkinsWhen Good Thinking Goes Bad by Todd C. RinioloHouse of Leaves by Mark Z. DanielewskiAmerican Gods: A Novel by Neil GaimanPrimates and Philosophers by Frans de WaalThe Enormous Room by E.E. CummingsThe Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar WildeGod Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher HitchensThe Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama Paradise Lost by John Milton Bad Money by Kevin PhillipsThe Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson BurnettGodless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists by Dan BarkerThe Things They Carried by Tim O'BrienThe Limits of Power by Andrew BacevichLolita by Vladimir NabokovOrlando by Virginia Woolf On Being Certain by Robert A. Burton50 reasons people give for believing in a god by Guy P. HarrisonWalden: Or, Life in the Woods by Henry David ThoreauExile and the Kingdom by Albert CamusOur Inner Ape by Frans de WaalYour Inner Fish by Neil ShubinNo Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthyThe Age of American Unreason by Susan JacobyTen Theories of Human Nature by Leslie Stevenson & David HabermanHeart of Darkness by Joseph ConradThe Stuff of Thought by Stephen PinkerA Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled HosseiniThe Lucifer Effect by Philip ZimbardoResponsibility and Judgment by Hannah ArendtInterventions by Noam ChomskyGodless in America by George A. RickerReligious Expression and the American Constitution by Franklyn S. HaimanDeep Economy by Phil McKibbenThe God Delusion by Richard DawkinsThe Third Chimpanzee by Jared DiamondThe Woman in the Dunes by Abe KoboEvolution vs. Creationism by Eugenie C. ScottThe Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael PollanI, Claudius by Robert GravesBreaking The Spell by Daniel C. DennettA Peace to End All Peace by David FromkinThe Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey NiffeneggerThe End of Faith by Sam HarrisEnder's Game by Orson Scott CardThe Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark HaddonValue and Virtue in a Godless Universe by Erik J. WielenbergThe March by E. L DoctorowThe Ethical Brain by Michael GazzanigaFreethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan JacobyCollapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed by Jared DiamondThe Battle for God by Karen ArmstrongThe Future of Life by Edward O. WilsonWhat is Good? by A. C. GraylingCivilization and Its Enemies by Lee HarrisPale Blue Dot by Carl SaganHow We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God by Michael ShermerLooking for Spinoza by Antonio DamasioLies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them by Al FrankenThe Red Queen by Matt RidleyThe Blank Slate by Stephen PinkerUnweaving the Rainbow by Richard DawkinsAtheism: A Reader edited by S.T. JoshiGlobal Brain by Howard BloomThe Lucifer Principle by Howard BloomGuns, Germs and Steel by Jared DiamondThe Demon-Haunted World by Carl SaganBury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee BrownFuture Shock by Alvin Toffler

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