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The Western Canon and more! from icindy, introduction 
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The Western Canon, and more...from icindy

i'm a female, avid book reader, ficton and non-fiction, western canon, historical (Lincoln, Churchill, WWI, WWII,) main interests...
Looking to meet others who share same passion...
I have a wide ranging literary interests...
I've even read the Latin dictionary for fun (the most suprising and illustrative find is a word for a particular torture used on convicts and enemies: that of lighting a smoldering fire that dosen't consume the victim right away thereby prolonging the suffering for hours!). Those Romans....

I love reading cookbooks for "fun", mostly the ones with a bit of literary, historical, or cultural interest...)Jane Grigson's account of collecting snails (a common practice long ago) along with a description of how to assemble a snail pen to purge them involving ashes and a post...), diana kennedy's account of a "picnic" that was an incredible affair involving butchering, washing entrails in the rushing river waters, building of the pit and lining with heated rocks...unforgettable...of course mfk fischer, Laurie Colwin, who before her untimely death was an author and frequent contributer to Gourmet magazine...

My brothers say I will read the fine print on a milk cartoon, which is a not so flattering way of saying I will read anything!

The last book I read, I was considering for a xmas gift for a brother:

"Rules of the Game: The Best Sports Writing from Harper's Magazine"... it was great!!!
for me at least 2 special pieces, kinda like finding the trinket in a box of crackerjacks for bookworms...a short story about "It's Only a Game" by Shirley Jackson, writer of THE LOTTERY, and THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE... and
"Hunting the Deceitful Turkey" by Mark Twain.

hope to hear from other readers!



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Hello icindy!

You have a unique taste in books. I am absolutely crazy about Mark Twain. Some of his essays have literally changed my life. I definitely suggest "The Art of Lying," if you haven't read that one already.


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Hello again!

I just read Twain's The Diaries of Adam and Eve. What a great recommendation. I loved it!

I haven't read Let Us Now Praise Famous Men by James Agee. I'll definitely check it out though. I need some more books for winter break :)


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Hello icindy, welcome to booktalk. I hope you will enjoy it here!



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hey kelstan,

thanks for the welcome...i saw your great posts on a couple of pages and wanted to go back and comment...
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hey you! i love mark twain too! obviously... so glad you read adam and eve, charming and delightful and original, just the best. Did you ever read "hunting the deceitful turkey" genius!!!! one of his best.. I sent my brother the book that had Hunting in it...you just can't get any better than Twain...

RE: Let Us Now Praise Famous Men... by Agee, he was very young when he wrote it, in his early 20's if i remember correctly, and on assignment for TIME magazine or Life etc, he was supposed to do a short
article for them with the famous Walker Evans taking the photographs... well, he goes AWOL right from the
beginning taking Evans with him and the article never gets written, but the article becomes a book and is a tour de force...

He reminds me of a combination Jack Kerouac, young, passionate,
with the grace, soul, and genius of John Steinbeck:
(in fact, their books were written and published almost contemporaneously steinbeck's being The Grapes of Wrath).
It's a wild book at times (I don't remember if he actually visits the town prostitute, but talks about her),
a documentary at times with every pore of their homes and material lives examined (heartbreakingly), a sense of the times, and a portrait of a Southern town and way of life, a love story for the families he visits, an indictment of a feudal economic system,
He is full of his brilliant genius, and sometimes I smiled at his obvious thrill in using his powers ( some of his riffs are non-sequiters but fascinating all the same)...
I'd love it if you read this book....i keep recommending it but no one seems interested :(



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Hi icindy!

I looked at some reviews on Amazon. The book seems fascinating. I'm intrigued that it reminds you of Kerouac and Steinbeck. Those are two phenomenal writers. Most people are familiar with On the Road, but Kerouac was an amazing poet as well. Grapes of Wrath! Such a beautiful novel. If Agee reminds you of that then I'm interested. I haven't read "hunting the deceitful turkey" but I'd like to on Thursday ;)

I highly suggest Twain's "What is Man?" You'll love it.


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Hi heyyou!

I'm going to read "What is Man" thursday :)

I'm thrilled you like Kerouac and steinbeck... and yes, AGEE's work, it's a beautiful combination...it's raw and unfiltered passionate experience, yet set in a beautifully controlled framework...

I came upon HUNTING THE DECEITFUL TURKEY by accident, it was in : Rules of the Game: The Best Sports Writing from Harper's Magazine (American Retrospective Series) by Matthew Stevenson and Michael Martin (Apr 5, 2010) collection "

I couldn't believe i had never seen it!

digressing....
I had an interesting literary experience...I kept seeing DAVID FOSTER WALLACE'S name here and there,
he was chosen to edit one years :best essays, etc....so I picked up INFINITE JEST, considered his best by some...It was unreadable...it was tedious, it was irritating, my mind revolted at his overly lengthy sentences and some bizarrely arcane words because they seemed contrived and like an unnatural attempt to be complex but to no purpose (unlike Faulkner)...I threw his book across the room....But, a few days later, I thought I'd give him another shot, thought maybe the windup us awful, but the pitch will be good...I kept waiting for a
payoff that n e v e r came to justify any of the novel...I don't know why I tried so hard to like him, or why I wanted to like him...maybe it's just we are always hoping for the magic a great novel, or other writing gives us. Maybe it was because I knew a bit of his backstory and was hoping it would at least give him some comfort to have written something great...

Anyway...I was reading Zadie Smith's "Changing My Mind: Occasional Essays by Zadie Smith (Nov 12, 2009) " and she had the same exact reaction and feeling upon reading One of his works It was amazing,
I don't remember if she actually threw the book across the room or felt like it; anyway, her critical reaction was the same...his writing, those sentences...
The reason I'm so happy at this confirmation is that I fell in love with her mind, her thinking,
and her talent reading those essays on reading, writing, literature, culture, etc and was happy to have that in common her, someone i admired...(I haven't read any of her other works yet, she is well known but somehow I kinda resisted reading this as she came out with a group of other brits with a bit of hype...I guess it was well deserved!).

Anyway, like me, she decided to give him another chance and also finished the book. She did not like his writing, but liked his ambition and his attempt to write something profound and important even if it was not
successful, she thinks the attempt to greatness, the aspiration is worthy and merits consideration...i think her essay.

I think you would like her essays since it's always interesting to hear a writer's literary influences, evaluations, and education...
there are a few reviews of the book on amazon...look for the longest one...

happy reading!
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Hello again :)

I read "Hunting the Deceitful Turkey," and you're right, it was hilarious. Although the last few lines were kind of confusing for me. I wonder what you make of it.

Hope you had a good Thanksgiving!


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