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The March - Part 3 (pages 213 - 265)


 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: The March - Part 3 (pages 213 - 265) Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Vivid descriptions Reply with quote
"The woods gathered the cold, as if the tall trees were a kind of vault. And the sharp redolence of pine seemed to drive the cold up behind one's eyes." p. 216

I felt that one. Kind of like an ice cream headache. Ouch. Well done!

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When Hugh Pryce, who had come over for the London Times, applied for a correspondent's credentials with the Army of the West, he found himself interviewed by no less a figure than General William Tecumseh Sherman. Sherman hated journalists - they had the nasty habit of describing what the army was doing so that anyone, including a secesh* general, could read about it in the newspaper. ... "You'll file no dispatches while this army is on the march". p. 213

Haven't we been informed that journalists embedded in the Iraq War are a radical new concept? ::75 Heh, quotation marks above are mine, couldn't restrain myself. ::51

*Secesh: took me a while to figger out this was shorthand for "secessionist".

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I had something to say about General Kilpatrick, but I've forgotten now. I'll have to go back and skim over that chapter again and see if I can remember. In the meantime, any thoughts on the character of Kilpatrick?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Vivid descriptions Reply with quote
Still haven't remembered what I meant to say about Kilpatrick. Maybe it's time to push the spike in, eh?

That's a joke you'll get later on.

The passage in which Pearl realizes the problematic nature of her complicity with the white men of the Union army was, to my mind, one of the most effective moment in the novel. It may not be a terribly original point to make, but I do appreciate that it leads to complexities that must seriously daunt a person in her position. It also makes me want to read some Nella Larson, who wrote about the issue of "Passing" in a time when the subject was far more volatile than now -- long before Philip Roth offered up "The Human Stain".

I might also point out that Pearl is the dominant strain in the novel. She's the character that has most consistently held the spotlight, so to speak. So I think it's important that we talk about Pearl, about how Doctorow has handled her as a character, what we think of her, how we react to her, and so on.

As for my part, I'm not entirely sure how I feel. There are times when I've found her story rather flat. But at the same time, I think she's a very appealing character. I think that's due in large part to a very basic contradiction. On the one hand, she's a very ambiguous figure, able to pass for white, able to pass for a boy, endearing herself to a number of different characters and suiting herself to a number of different lifestyles. And at the same time, she's a very strong character, distinct in her personality, determined. While reading, I sometimes found myself hoping that she'd find a more compelling story. And at times it emerged -- crossing paths with Mattie Jameson again, for instance, and the passage I alluded to above.

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