New here, read many of the explanations of Genesis. Seems everything was covered, almost. All except for what it means. I have studied Alchemy now for 40 years. I have been using Genesis many of those years trying to Perfect matter, the making of the Philosophers Stone. I want to explain what Genesis means to me as an Alchemists. first, i want to explain that something happened long ago. The anxcients found how to perfect matter with nature. This is where the One True God of nature came from, and all our present religions. But it was always Secret. To speak of it was to die. The alchemists we know, Sir Isacc Newton, persons like that also spoke of but alchemically they 'always discussed in a Secretive manner, and when they said anything it was in metaphor. and so today, there are few if any alchemists that know what Alchemy was about, fewer even our Scholars. Most that I have spoken to believe all that garbage should just be thrown out! But there is an answer and an explanation. All the things I will say here as long as i am allowed I will back up many ways. It was not easy, and so why the 40 years. But everything is from what we know of as alchemy, but we never knew. I hope that will change. I want all to know up front I am no scholar. I was always tied to engineering. Nuclear, gas, steam, etc. This was just my hobby. But I can't prove myself wrong, and if you all will just try to see with an open mind, as you learn you will know that all i say is the Truth. Alchemy is the base for everything. astrology, religion, the Secret Societies, many things as you will learn. I found from the Gnostics, that the proper name for alchemy is "The Magic of Egypt. Jesus was taught that magic. Tonight I want to explain what Genesis really means. The explanation has far reaching ramifications if the right people realize what it means. Why I know Genesis? When I started I read in several books that , 'Genesis was the Greatest book ever written about alchemy."
So, I read many times, and compared to the Emerald Tablet which also is a Creation Epic. All I could do is wonder what and why. So, here is the results of many years of consideration.. Genesis is not written by Moses. It is from ancient Egypt.
As explained you will see this is True. Now, even Moses?? They did though find a scribe of a Pharoah by the name of Mesis or something like that. Anyhow, Genesis is very clear really, if you read it very carefully. First, in ancient egypt, all came fron an egg laid by the Great Cackler! Sounds silly, but all on earth does come from some sort of egg or seed. The first act was the laying of the egg for the sun! Light was Created. In Genesis, the Heaven and the earth was created, first day. That is an egg for the earth. The shell of the egg is heaven, the earth is the contents. From G. masseys book, natural Genesis, "The shell of the egg is to be considered as heaven." The formless earth was something to the ancients like the contents of the egg. Liquid, but by process became dry! Note dry so was wet first. Also on the first day, Light was Created and it was "Good." This has never been explained to you, but it means that a part of God or something of God is in the light of the sun! We can collect that good by process. It is the only thing Perfect that will Perfect the Matter in the below, or the Matter that the Philosophers Stone is made of. The deep means tha an amount of water was also created in this epic! Now this thing about the Good (god) in the light is something that is tied to many things of Jesus. The Son of the sun! This is why. The ancients didn't worship the sun, they worshipped this Good in the Light! Somebody just left out that part. Also, and Very important to understand, the Day was Created. Morning and evening. This is because the Light Created was the Sun and Moon! Plus I guess the stars. In Genesis it says, the "Waters Above." Plural! The day is based on one cycle of the moon. Morning is waxing, evening is waning, the between time is the new moon or dark period when there is no moonlight. Now here is part of the proof. The Egyptians seen the earth as Two Earths. We call it the Northern and southern hemisphere. The sun moves north for six days, and created the Norhthern hemisphere, then it moves south and so does that in the southern hemisphers. Or, Genesis is stil going on today, a yearly repeated cycle. It was shown by them in many ways, see Massey, 'The Light of Egypt." This is why Genesis is the Greatest book, it is something you can use and I do, you can too. It is also to know this one thing. A day is a month. In many things, three days for example, is actually three months! I will definately be visiting this again! All of alchemy is basd on this fact! Next day. The firmement was created and called Heaven?? We already have heaven? What it means is, Sacred Geometry. Many things have different shapes, heaven, firmament, egg, seed shucks, what is important is they all contain PHI, a math. principle. Idaramled said something bout this which explaines it, "It is important for you to know why your church has a dome or steeple." It is because if a church, temple, is built correctly, it contains PHI. What that means is God can come there. He does not come to a shape without PHI. He is in your church! The firmement is shaped like a pyramid, heaven is like the shell of an egg. Together they work miracles, so to speak. Now, here also the waters are divided. What is done is done in darkness. The matter is to Rot to a base, even th earth in the creation. Isn't this how all nature works> a seed thrown onto the ground will bring forth much fruit it it dies and rots as it is turning into a plant. This is also exactly how the Philosophers Stone is made! Next day, and also very important. The waters come together, dry land called earth is created. This is androgynous earth as Adam was Created androgynous from it. This is because the sun (male) and the moon (female) was what created the earth. The sun is also where Spirit came from, and Soul from the Moon. So, if you think you have a spirit and a soul, it is because of this process! Also it is important to understand the light. I have already said the above waters, plural is what we have outside. If you really closly read where it says the sun and moon, "And God created Two Lights." It doesn't say he did so on that day! On that day, the light were just set into the firmement. In other words, what we have now outside was established on that day. I think this came about because in the alchemical process, we use and eliminate the lights at dofferent times. The ancients must have believed that what they did that worked to perfect the mattter is similar to what God did when he created the earth. Part of the difference is that we are told to accept that God did this or that on our faith! The ancients saw what was here and so worked with what was here, they didn't have to accept some story on faith! Genesis by this process is easliy understandible, it is what we have, it is in the books, like the shell and heaven if you look, and like the "Light is Good." you just have to figure out over a lot of time what it is supposed to mean and how it works. It is now easy for me because i have ben working the process, I will in time explain all of it, and the more you use it the more it becomes easier to understand. Now, as to the comming discussion with Acharya, all of this is tied to the mythology of Horus, Isis and Osiris. because of this reason. The Creation process and art, alchemy, is how we make the Philosophers Stone. The ancients had this great medicine, and it proved to them they had proof of A God in nature, evidently because of what it did. As it is a 16 month process for the full perfection, Osiris is a 16 month religion. Life, death resurrection, the Virgin birth, Easter, all is from this Genesis process when you learn what the Great Secret was. There is so very much to it, and it will take a lot of posts to explain all of it. but you will find, that "Myth" will be spoken of many times, the point is this, what was the Myth based on? And the answer is much of what I just discussed, and what we will discuss. Much of what has been said is wrong, we will explain that also. when finished all who wants to will be able to make this medicine! I have done it one time, Im trying now to perfect the 8 steps. I still have a lot of problems with one step, the rotting! Believe me when I say ther is a lot of ways to rot and egg. If it is not done right, it does not work! I know that and all will see for a fact. If it is wrong, even on step 7 of 8, and you mess it up you have to start again and it has to be cordinated with the times of the year. The steps are our religious holidays! Consider that. It has to be worked by the times of the year (astrology) or it doesn't work. Hard to do for sure, you have to babysit for the 16 months! Understanding Genesis as it is tied to the two earths, six days in each hemisphere, has a lot of importance. Darwin if he knew this would have said that evolution is due to Genesis, which it is!! Everything outside is according to conditions over time, and it outside is all Genesis through the year when you know and understand. All I said is the truth. try to see things with an open mind and it becomes easy. Im not a great typist or speller either! But I Love my work, I find it very interesting and I hope you will also.

So, the universe was a giant egg laid by the Great Cackler or was it just the earth?

Who is Massey?

Unless the methods you use to practice alchemy have controls, the same type used in science, then I'd say you should change your methods. As for the information, I'm only into alchemy in video games. I brew my own healing potions.

Hi All,

Who is Massey. Gerald Massey.

He like Sir W. Budge wrote many books about Ancient Egypt and the Religion. Massey compared the religions over the world to show how all are similar.

as for the egg. Read the book of the dead, all came from an egg. It is about a study of nature. I know how it sounds to those that know little about what the religion is about, so let me explain a few things. I said the Emerald Tablet is also a 1, process to make the stone, and said, "It is a work of the sun." It also said, "it raises from earth to heaven and descends again." I explained heaven is the shell of the egg. Earth is the contents. That is from Genesis. see the similarities? flamel, in his work said, "Blind men are serching for the water but cannot find it, except one who considered the weight." This is also from Genesis where the waters are being divided. The egg is getting lighter because the process is rotting the egg, and gasses push the water of the white out of the shell. sometimes they actually explode. This is just a couple of ties. In all of alchemy, there are hundreds, but you don't know unless you know the steps of the alchemical process which has never been explained. But that process is Genesis. In the present discussion about the Christ in Egypt, if you knew the process, you would find it in many places in the Gnostics spoken by Jesus. You will find that the times, of the 8 steps, are tied to the stars or astrology. In fact, word definitions tied to the constellations are from this process. Many things of the process are tied to the stars in other ways. I would say that first this process was found, and then the stars, constellations were defined. This process as silly as it sounds, is where God came from, and the religion of osiris. later, christianity came from this same egg process. In the discussion, the one soon to be here about Myth and jesus in Egypt tied to Osiris, but, you should ask, what is the Myth based on and that cannot be answered unless you know alchemy or, "the ancient Magic of Egypt."

many things will be said about Christ and osiris. """BUT""" none of the mythology will be explained as to wht it was based on. You can decide, if you want to compare Christ to Osiris in Egypt, shouldn't you know what osiris is based on. Osiris is another name for the Philosophers Stone. It is about matter. The matter was slowly perfected by nature, most from the sun, but both the sun and moon are used, and because the matter was perfected (Thier Understanding) they felt they had found proof of god! Thus, they changed this process into the religion of Osiris, later jesus was atached to it. If you persons here will just work with me, i will in time tell you enough facts that you will know that what i am saying is all true. let me give you another example, because it will be talked about on the upcomming discussion with Acharya! The three days and when the sun stands still so to speak at christmas. You have watched Zeitgeist as i have. that explanation is wrong. let me explain. Ever hear ofthe Wisdom of sophia? The three Wise Men? what is the Wisdom or why Wise? It is never asked or discusssed. I told you that a day is about the moon and so it is one month in length. The Three Wise men are really about 3 months of work to get to that point, dec, 21. The Wisdom of Sophia is really about this process, but it is a Secret, never explained unless you know. That is still a fact. anyhow, in September, the matter of the stone is now brought forth as the Earth in Genesis. But, in the process, it is brought forth by Moonlight (Sophia) Only. This is where the One and Only Virgin birth came from! She is called by many names, but it is all about the female Goddess, the Moon as it was understood to be by the Ancients and also as the left Eye of god. The sun being the right eye. Now, it is brought forth in September under the stars of Virgo the virgin constellation. The Two Sisters mentioned in places are the moon, (female) and Virgo (female). In alchemy, this is called, 'The True mercury." It is the remade earth or substance thatnow you can make the Philosophers Stone from. But, this mercury is the dried or dry land called earth of Genesis. It was Androgynous in Genesis. here though is where original Sin came from. In the alchemical process as we would call it, it is brought forth by female moon only, and so there is only Soul attached to it. In other words there is no Spirit. This is what Sophia is about, and is discussed by jesus in the Gnostics. In Egypt, they hung a Serpent on a Cross at this time of year. It was a Serpent of Life. why? This is whenOsiris was reborn as the bab! Remember he was killed, etc, well this is where he was reborn, it also was known as the "Set Holiday" as death was overcome. Now, if you know anything about osiris, he didn't want to be a man.you and I are from this "basic substance." he wanted to go on and be a God. which is what he did. Now, he is just as you and i are at this point, and so has to be further augmented to become a God, so, for 3 more months (days) he is again further augmented by the sun and moon. In alchemy this is where we make "Crowned Androgynous material." It is now above you and I, God male and female type and it is finished Dec.21. At this point, he (Osiris) is not a God, he is just a super female and Male or the Crowned material or matter. This is spoken of in several places of the Gnostics also. But, three months were called three days to keep the secret. Three days of Creation or three months. Now more about this, In Ancient Egypt, at the end of september the Djed Pillar was raised, and a 'TIT and LION CLOTH" was attached to it? No exp[lanation, a Garment of shame? What this is about, the Tit is Female, the Lion cloth is male, and so it means the Djed needs to be augmented and will be so by a male(sun and female (moon). Also, that cross, the Tau cross. Jesus carried it? Why? Because he knew this religion and was tied to this religion and knew it stood for Life after death as in osiris. Now what is that about? This process, they believed tha they found how God could raise you up after death. They could make the dead matter alive again? In Nine Months, and so god could do it to you. This is tied to why isis wore a neckless of Nine beads, and why, they put nine shiny shells in your burial casket when they burried you. All your connections to death and resurrection are from this process, ORIGINALLY. Now, to further explain Dec. 21 and Zeitgueist. Osiris is now a super male and female, but must unite with Horus (God) to become a god! The three wise men show where the sun will come up and align with Sirius which is Osiris on Dec. This is what you know of as "The Eye of Horus." It is the design on the back of the dollar bill. That is what that design is about! Osiris Unites with Horus for 4 months, or until Easter, Easter, When he is resurrected as a God being super male, super female, and now three in One, God! This is what the Resurrection is actually about. In alchemy this is when the stone is finished! Note that it took 7 months from September, 7 is the perfect Number? why? Because in Seven months it perfected the matter from the base. Seven is everywher, all throughout alchemy, and this is why. I will show it to you in many places, and i will show the division between 3 and 4 months! This eye of Horus, if you seen the movie, 'The Lost tomb of the Jesus Family," This sign was on the entrance to the Tomb of Jesus. It was and is still on the entrance to peters tomb! It is where you feed fast to the dead person in Heaven with Osiris who is now a resurrected God as you can become, but much ,more to it. Now, More proof of sirius. why theDog Star always tied to sirius? Because it is a metaphor. Dogs eat rotten matter and they turn it into good (food for themselves) So they buried dogs heads also with the body, I don't know if they always did. sometimes the god of death carries his head, this is why, and why his head is that of a jackel or dog! Also, the sign for sirius is also a pyramid. so, Osiris, Horus, the dog, all tied to osiris joining with Horus so that he can become agod which he does.
Now I mentioned Original sin. if you read the Gnostics, always the female is in sin because she brought fortha bab without her consort. I just explained where this came from. I told you, the moon gives you soul, and so you have no Spirit! This is the sin that kills you because when you die, if you have no spirit, god will not come to you and give you a new body as your in Sin! God cannot come to sin! This is why jesus talks about it, and why Jesus was "BAPTIZED." By baptism, you recieve Spirit and so can go to heaven. Now they , whoever wrote all the past religion rules and such, jesus said he was from the father(God) and not of this world, so he had a Spirit as that is what you recieve from God who is Pure Spirit! so why John the Baptist? Because in Alchemy we make 2 stones from the matter in september. everything about the White Stone is the same as John the baptist. Everything about the matter (Red) is tied to jesus which must go an to a higher level as is one of the parables. So, enough for tonight for you to learn and remember. The process is tied to all i said, and many more things, everything of the past. It is about "Matter perfected by the sun. why God is from the sun, and jesus is tied to the Sun, everything is from 'The Light is Good" when you understand what that means. I mentioned the September Holidays, The Christmas Holidays, Easter, all this is tied to this egg process. Now, go look. In many of the alchemical Pictorial Allegories, you will see the pyramid(Firmament deign) and an egg! The NewPort tower in newhampshire built by the Templars, on Dec.21, the sun shines through the wall and on to an EGG design carved on the wall. In Washington D. C. The capitol building built by the masons, consider everything else therefrom Egypt (alchemy) and look at the Capitol building?? Is that designed after an egg> if you will look up mary magdelene, thereare many paintings of her with a Red Egg. The Easter Rabbit, it was used because a Rabbit never closes its eyes, and In April, we use full sunlight or the oven is always open to the sun. Colored Easter Eggs, yes, from this process. It ends up a Red matter which turns purple when multiplied. The same purple of Jesus robe. everything of this process I found is the samas as jesus. So, the myth of Jesus is not tied to osiris, it is based on what we call Alchemy, Jesus called it 'the Magic of Egypt." Jesus was apagan and knew and believed in this ancient Religion. Jesus spoke of it in many places, and his parables are tied to it. In One Long Parable, which I will give here sometime, he actually gives the process. when you know it and hear this parable, you will know it is the process. He speaks of perfection, you are perfected when and ONLY when you take this matter. Jesus was a christos because he was fed this matter as were the ancient pharoahs! Living Gods on Earth I can also prove this by things jesus said and his desciples said or 'wondered about" When Jesus cured the sick with the stone, he didn't feel they needed to be Baptized? Why? Because the stone is Pure Spirit, the same you recieve through Baptism. Remember when I said, "It raises from earth to heaven." This is how Baptism woks, and th stone is perfected, the vapor picks up sunlight (spirit) and deliveres it below (mercury as the messenger of the Gods) That is what the "Again " word means, circulate in the lights for 16 months to perfection, you take your perfected and Living god on Earth this is also talked about. all these things are important to understand, but none of it will be known or discussed in the comming discussion of Myth! and it is why i will stay out of the discussion.

I want to go through the process with all of you, each step and each pictorial allegory. I will show you and explain everything I have said here. I would someday like to get on the show and discuss it. Much of it is on my web site as if you go there and read it slowly it becomes clear and I don't have to repeat so much. It is your past, I would think you all would want to know the Truth as to what it was all about. Ive said enough already to show i must know something of what i am saying or you could prove me wrong many ways. You cannot, because it is the truth. all our religion is originally from a process tied to a rottewn egg, and a glass pyramid oven with a study of nature. 'The All" is in all of it.
It took me many years to understand this, and many more to get through the process. I still have problems with one step but i wanted to talk about this and get it know before I die! heck, now 40 years and i still learn more. I also want to meet a chemist to talk about rotting matter, if you know one. As i said, everything is tied to this process, i just want it known by enough it will become know everywhere. If thereis a God it is just as the ancients believed, a God of nature. Everything else is made up by men wishing to control you. society should where men can still think know the Truth. Lastly, many now say that Jesus was just a myth. he knew everything i am telling you, and only other alchemists have shown me the same knowledge. yes, Jesus is tied to the mythology as osiris, but Jesus was aliving breathing alchemists! a myth wouldn't know this information. If you had a stone like this that would cure all ills, can you imagine the power it would give you in the past? Jesus was killed because he was talking about this to normale people. In the Gospel of the Twelve, he actuall gave his desciples a "Bag of Powder" to cure the sick in his name! Now is that God, or a medicine?

Al

Al, your comments look a bit crazy. Please edit your posts to make short paragraphs and replace the exclamation marks with full stops if you want anyone to read it. Paragraphs are your friends.

The threshold question here is whether you regard modern science as providing an accurate explanation of the universe, as far as it goes.

If you think that science is wrong, ie that your alchemy is a replacement for established mainstream knowledge, you will struggle to get anyone to take you seriously.

As to the Egyptian idea of the cosmic egg, science does say that the solar system coalesced from a spinning nebula of matter about five billion years ago. Is this what you are talking about?

Hi Robert,

This is the understanding that the Egyptians held. Me, for as much as we know, there is always more to learn. This about what they believed from their study and understanding of how they felt the earth was created. Some of what they did Ibelieve we still have a way to go to catch up, but our knowledge of things is cutting edge! People do though need to know what they had to explain where religion came from. I was a Nuke! I know how things work! None of this is what I believe. It was as much as a surprize and almost rediculous (the explanation) to me as it will seem to others. That in itself is why society needs this to move on and not be controlled as many are.

Al

The status of today's knowledge is an ocean compared to the drop of water the egyptians had. This is true even though they had a good deal of knowledge. They didn't know the Earth was round(minus a few clever individuals who performed experiments!), and thought the Earth was the center of everything. Our pool of knowledge today is so vast that examples wouldn't do it justice. Suffice it to say this knowledge is directly evidenced by the technologies it spawns. Earth today is an unimaginable fantasy land with technological marvels that we didn't foresee even 100 years ago. There is so much knowledge that to gather a sufficient amount to understand even half of a field of cutting edge research takes a decade.

These things you reference, this esoteric knowledge. What makes you think it isn't already known, but that the knowledge is from a different perspective, with a naturalistic explanation? The terms used would be different perhaps, coined in scientific jargon.

As for your interpretation of the bible, I'll be silent. Robert and the others are in another class on that topic, I just shut up and read.

If by alchemy, you mean changing one element into another, it is indeed possible. It's actually been done before.

And is still being done.

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/generalch ... 50601a.htm

They used to soak lead in urine to transfer the yellow property onto the metal, but it turns out that you CAN turn lead into gold, but you need a nuclear reactor, not a bucket of pee.

If alchemy worked, then it would have worked. It doesn't, so it never did. You wouldn't need to explain it to us through analogy, you would just show up at the nearest college, set up your alchemical experiment and blow everyone's mind by transmuting some element into something else.

If you CAN do that, i recommend doing it immediately. We need exactly that kind of technology all over the planet, and i assure you, you will be wealthy beyond any of your wildest dreams if you can get even the very most basic transmutation to work.

Go.

Do it now.

Today i have only a few minutes. Alchemy was Secret. Puffers and Bellows chemists used lead and worked labs. alchemy is about nature and the forces found there. Paracelsus said, 'To understand alchemy, you must understand the Chaos of the Creation." Yet he was the one that started organized lab work. why, perhaps he was looking for other secrets to nature. Metaphor is used in the alchemy of nature. It was to them a known way of espressing an idea. The sun is the obelisk, and in alchemy, it is shown as a Sword, knife, dagger, any single pointed object. i will show you many and explain it when i do. The moon was multiple pointed objects, like Der Horns, Trident, and as flamel said, 'his wifes hair all Descheveled.! The serpent was also used to point to the lights, why is that every year the sun renews the earth. A serpent does the same thing as it sheds its skin. There are many, I will explain them as i go along. as I did the dogs head, and the god death with the dogs head. It is about matter, living, death and resurrection. This is wher it came from, Egypt end their religion based on the alchemical process. spirit, Soul, heaven, all is from this process. Jesus knew this process. As you learn it i will prove it to all of you. All one needs know is the process. There are at least 37 of them shown on the alchemy Web Site. i will explain the one I worked with for many years, and then show that the others are all the same. Each is shown different as that is how an alchemists proved himself to other alchemists. It is very interesting, and I assure you that you will learn a whole new way of seeing the past. Al

So, uh, can you change some elements or not? Or is it some mystical secret club? It sounds like you are defining alchemy different from most people.

Well, to be fair, he can't do it now. I'm not sure if any of you saw his other thread, but here's part of what he wrote-


So to Dexter, yeah, it sounds like he means the standard definition, and that he can make the philosopher's stone. He said in that same post he just lacks one step for multiplication, whatever that means.

But still, it's not like people haven't documented 16 month processes on camera before, so it's not like we're demanding something unreasonable.
Just proof.
That's all.

I looked up the main alchemist Paracelsus on wikipedia, and found that his middle name was Bombastus.

This is allegedly where the word bombastic comes from (link), although another source does not mention Paracelsus. Alchemists say they have a secret mystery, but can never explain it when challenged. Paracelsus was certainly bombastic. Wiktionary defines bombast as "Originally, cotton, or cotton wool. Cotton, or any soft, fibrous material, used as stuffing for garments; stuffing; padding. (figuratively) High-sounding words; an inflated style; language above the dignity of the occasion."

Hi all, and I want to say that I am very pleased that I am getting some response. I know and understand all your remarks. I started this because I felt there must be something we missed. 40 years and Im still learning. But I had no help. You all, if you will continue to put up with me will be glad you did in time.

Alchemy is not what you think, and I know you do not think it is about a rotten egg. But step outside. If you studied nature, surly you would learn about compost lets say. Easy to make, it makes itself as everything recycles. This is compost, but further augmented by nature. Who ever told you compost was the end of it all? I told you outside is Genesis over time. It is conditions of the matter. Every time you change the conditions of the matter it changes. IN time there was nothing to do that would change it so they reached an endpoint. That endpoint was the stone. When you understand it, it is a work of the sun. In part, how it works is that your always making the sun stronger as to how it works with the matter. At the end, it is just sun and matter!

There was a small comment about the Bible. I never spent much time as there was never anything I could actually figure from reading it. Now I have this to say. The Gnostic Gospels. written by the desciples of Jesus, same ones as in the Bible. Now the gnostics are 1800 years old, have been buried all that time. I can read them better than any scholar. Why? They talk like I am talking to you. Much of what is there is about the Ancient Religion of Egypt, and it will be obvious to you that Jesus knew this magic as they then called. It is in every gospel somehow. Some of it is so cleare there is no doubt and when you know more you will be able to see it. So, the question. Why is it that what I read is as the ancient past and religion, written by the same persons or at least by the same named persons, yet the material is so different, and says so much! I said Jesus was a Pagan, he was as far as saying, he was tied to the ancient religion, and evidently believed in it because when you know what it was about, you will see it and know it too. Ill give you an example. As all of you should know something about this, you should be able to prove what i am saying wrong. If you really understood it which, again, none do! Im not saying that to make anyone feel bad or throw stones, I want you to see what has been going on. what we have is the past, but everything about the past has been removed so you could never find it. But, things like the Gnostics keep appearing. So here goes, Baptism

First what Mercury the Messenger of the Gods really is, and how alchemy works. Remember the compost. Mercury is water and water vapor. The gods are the two eyes of God, the left (sun) and right (moon). Look at a cloud. The sun shines on it, it rains and the below grows. Rain is much better as it has nitrogen in it from the light interaction. Mercury in the form of vapor collects this essence, and condenses and delivers it to the below. In the nature study, the ancient seen rain in this manner. Mercury in the oven is vapor "always" circulation in the lights (Gods). It condenses and feeds the below. In 16 months, the below is purified. It is said in another way in alchemy. The sulfur mercury theory. The sulfur (Sun) and the Mercury (Moon) combine in some fashion and produce Salt. This salt is a kind of mercury. Now Flamel in September called it the True Mercury. It is the substance "we" hide all our secrets in. Now this Mercury is described in many ways. It is Osiris reborn. It is Jesus originally born in September also. It is, well, when we get to that Ill bring it all in. so you have mercury, vapor picking up from the light. Now from the sun you get Spirit. You have to have Spirit and soul to go to heaven. Now in this process, in September, you have the One and Only Virgin Birth. I mentioned this. The matter at that point is brought forth by Moonlight and the constellation Virgo only. So you see, you as from the earth brought forth in Genesis this way, have no Spirit. Now Jesus preached this and we will cover it in time. You have to be Baptized as mercury picks up from the sun, Spirit, its in the rain water, in creeks, and so when your Baptized using rain or water from outside in ceramony, you again recieve Spirit. Now you can go to heaven if your good! Now in the past some of the Philosophers like Jesus believed this, some did not. I guess they argued back then too. But it is in the Gnostics, and this is why you need to be Baptized to go to heaven. Much of that has been changed, but when you know this process, and read the Gnostics, you will know this is true!

So, if it is in the Gnostics, why not the Bible?

When you look outside, see the whole year. Can you see that in the Northern Hemisphere that ?Dec. 21 is the first Day as the sun starts to move North? Can you see the third Day as spring in the North as the Waters come together> can you understand that man was made on the sixth day because in the Northern hemisphere the Garden was finished, or, there was food to eat and such as this is basically the end for the north, and the start for the southern hemisphere. The ancients just seen and used what was here. Now the compost, you can also see how it is made and by the seasons we can remake it into something else. Now again, Adam was androgynous, male and female?? How? Because the Waters Above were what is above right now. The sun(male) and the Moon (female) produced the earth, Adam was from the earth, and so he was androgynous. Now here is the argument of the Philosophers. If he was androgynous, he had spirit and soul! But others said, "No" he was brought forth by the moon only and so he had only soul! So the Original sin is from the Virgin birth! This is why even Jesus kind of cursed the female. If you havent read then do so, you will find all this and now at least know why. But, if Jesus said that, he knew the past belief system. he believed in the stone, he had it and believed it Perfect, a ticket straight to heaven. But he also knew of the Virgin birth, and said to kick the female, have nothing to do with her because all she creates is sin and death. Death meaning what is created can't go to heaven.

I mentioned the constellation Virgo. Many of them are directly tied to this process. let me give you some more examples. The goat at the end of year. See the two single point horns? That is because they seen two suns. The sun was shown by the Obelisk, or any single pointed object. But, notice when the sun is all the way North, June, we have the Twins or two again. Same reason, two suns. Now, if Orion was for the three days in Dec. because the sun stands still for three days, why isn't there a similar holiday for June? Same thing happens. Ask acharya! ask why the are "Wise men", and why the "Wisdom of Sophia." It is all about the same thing, so what really is the explanation. In time you will know and understand, all of it.

about my medicine and if it can transmute. I explain it like this. The process became the religion. They believed it proved to them God in nature. If not, why the religion based on this process? Evidently it did what they said. In the gnostics, like Paracelsus, Jesus used a bag of Powder to cure the sick. Read the Gospel of the 12. He used Red Wine. all alchemists also ,used red Wine. It tinges the water to a red when mixed! So, red wine and it doesn't show. Lead to gold? Imperfect to Perfect might be the answer. I still have things to learn. But, I have done only 1 time all the steps correctly. It took many years to do that. I only could do trial and error. what else do you have, surly many of you have looked at the allegories that have "never been Explained." Wasn't easy to do and find this. Anyhow, the second rotting step is still a trick for me. Ill explain it to you. when you rot the egg, when done, when added to Pure Dew or water, it causes a rainbow effect. The first day the water turns a lime green. The second it is sky blue. The third it is bananna yellow. Then it clears up and remains clear. Now Ive done it about five times in a hundred?? I just can't figure so that I get it each time. But here is the thing. I saw a show, "Looking for meteur dust on the bottom of a fresh water deep lake." I saw the person take mud and place it in a jar and add water. It turned Lime Green. he said, It is just the minerals in the mud, it ends up yellow! Ive tried to find and contact, as he has the mud ready made. with it I could make a ton of the medicine, and explain how to multiply that! I just can't find the answer, YET! But I will if I live long enough. See, I do it in the egg shell at 100 degrees in four months (Second Day) The lake is cold and takes forever, but it gets it done! Perhaps, even here there is a chemists that can explain it. I haven't found one yet. But you can understand how this impressed the ancients. In the sunlight, this is absolutly beautiful!

Please read and reread the material. if you want to know and understand what Alchemy was, you will have to learn all i say. Then if Im just lying or making it up, you can surly catch me! Believe me I am not.

In part why alchemy has not been found out. The 16 month process. See, it overlaps as does the months in the year. It starts Dec. and ends next year, april. well, in the processes of the alchemists, you had to know this. why? In Flamel, the tablets of Abraham the Jew, they overlap. There is seven tablets, but the first three have a double meaning. 1 is also 8, 2 is also 9, three is also 10. Many of the series is set up this same way. Imaging trying to work a process where you did not know this. No other alchemists ever taught this, "Our present day alchemists (Puffers)."

Al

They believe chemistry as evidence of god in nature, therefore it IS evidence of god in nature? Impeccable logic.



If you take a college chemistry class, you'll learn endless such tricks. There are many characteristics of a material that may make it change appearance or texture or viscosity or whatever, but that doesn't mean there are medical uses. In modern chemistry, you can perform hundreds of thousands of such combinations.

You've jumped backwards in time 2,000 years to study chemistry as though we know nothing about it. You wrap yourself in the mystique that the ancients felt back in those days when performing a successful experiment. The unfortunate side effect of this esoteric path is that you dismiss the proper knowledge of an actual discipline like chemistry in favor of the feel-good mysticism of alchemy. That feel good mysticism is an awe of the unknown and the mysteries of alchemy. The problem is, it is actually all known, but you'd need to be a chemistry student to realize this. You're trading modern day knowledge for the invigorating feeling of trekking into territory that you mistakenly believe is uncharted.

Sometimes I do this in video games. I'll play them from the start and everything is fresh and new and unexplored. But my perception of the status of progress doesn't change the fact that there is a strategy guide that contains each and every secret in the game.

You can claim "wonder" or "exhilaration" or "fascination", but you cannot claim any advancement of knowledge. That's an illusion. The only progress you make is personal enjoyment. Which is great. I enjoy gardening, even though I know a small fraction of what a horticulturist knows.

Hi Moderator,
Thanks for all the comments. I said I was In Nuclear Power for 8 years, chemistry was one of the subjects. I also said something about I felt originally that we as a Society might have missed something. Now, as you seem to know so much, please tell me what happens to matter within a pyramid for 16 months when you always change the conditions? Read a few books written by folks that have worked with pyramids, they do strange things. But, what is important is they do the same strange things at the same time each year. What I am trying to do is show there is a basis for religion. Now a talk is comming where they want to prove Jesus is just myth, it is an important subject don't you think? To me he is a real person because the things I am trying to tell all of you he knew. Now, myth wouldn't know the ancient religion. Yes, I agree he was tied to the mythology. That he sounds as though he is all from Osiris. The question remains, what is Osiris from? what is Isis and the religion based on. In the Gnostics, what are the parables of Jesus based on? All of it can be explained and understood if you know what we are discussing. Sorry it is all strange to all of you. Yes it is the past but guess what? We never knew the past and what it was based on. Now the upcoming speaker is a great Scholar, Great Person. Extreemly well educated, knows many languages, knows everything. But she cannot answer or explain any of what I am telling you, no one can. She spends little time with the Gnostics because there is really no others that can explain them either. If you know the Magic of Egypt (alchemy) then you can explain it all. It said several Places in the Gnostics that Jesus learned in Egypt the magic. I know how complicated it is, and a little of how they did things. Jesus was gone from the age of 12 to 30. Not saying it took him that long, but much of that time he was in Egypt learning by some master. Can I prove it? well, if you learn what I am trying to teach you might just agree with me. You will at least know what the magic is about.

With the above comment by Lord of the Replies, alchemy is not chemistry. Alchemy is about nature and the forces found there. It is how to use those forces to control and perfect Matter. I suppose you could call it a type of chemistry, but you will never find it in a chemistry Class.

let me tell you just a bit of my story. I found this process and was teaching it to some students. One of them, from Montreal Canada said to me he had heard of some of what i was saying. He finally told me of Massey and the book, "Egypt, Light of the World. He is a very well Educated Person!! Imagine my surprise when I read and found this process is all about Osiris. I was totally shocked, "What was it I found." Before I wasn't even sure it had much to do with alchemy as it was unproven to me. It just explained everything and made the series make sense. Now this person worked on the movie, "The Lost Tomb of the Jesus Family. If you havent seen it you should. It is Jesus and his family. Now why I have brought it up is because, he has told me there is more information and it will be released this summer. It will shock the world! Sorry, that is all i know as that is also a secret right now, but will be out soon. I wish I knew, but do not know what will be comming out.

I wanted to talk about the oven tonight but felt I had to answer what was posted. The oven you will find is also in Masseys description of egypt and how they seen the world and creation. The Cross is from the oven, and the four arm cross is the "River with Four Heads mentioned in Genesis. It is not a real place on this earth, but it is a real place in the oven that depicts the Creation of the Earth, as the ancients seen it. It even works, I have seen that too!

Wonder and Exhileration! Yes, after the years it took to begin to understand, I understand those words, and they do apply

Al