Skeptic and the Book of Jonah

stahrwe · Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:43 pm

Robert Tulip wrote:

Stahrwe's statement "why do you keep trying to associate logic and right" is more than a free pass, if it made any sense it would get his team to win without showing up, maybe it would get him into a whole Major League season in a luxury box suite for free, hey, they would even pay him to go so he could miraculously cause pitchers to throw balls.


	Quote: As for the whole subject of 'contradiction' in the Bible, they tend more to be framed as paradoxes; he who shall be last shall be first, to gain one's life he must first lose it, etc.

Oh I see, we can leap from 'the poor are the most important' and 'live to serve others' to 'evolution is false'. Not so much God of the gaps as God of the yawning logical gulf of irrational sophistry.

Irrational sophistry is indeed present above but it is in your broad brush stokes of illogic evident by jumping, for some reason to a baseball stadium analogy. But since you and others seem to have so much difficulty abandoning logic let me pose this question to you:

Which of the following statements is correct?

The good of the many outweigh the good of the few.
The good of the few outweigh the good of the many.

[be careful with your answer]

Vishnu · Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:00 pm

The good of me outweighs the good of all else.

Yep, I'm that kind of selfish bastard.

Interbane · Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:23 pm


	Quote: The 'something happened' in Genesis is not more indictable for Christians than for sciencetist who say, "something happened in the beginning."

Scientists are well aware they may be wrong. That's all the difference in the world. When they "make stuff up", it's at least extrapolated from observing the world. You make stuff up on top of stuff that's already made up(at least, there's no discernible difference).


	Quote: But since you and others seem to have so much difficulty abandoning logic let me pose this question to you:

Who says anyone here has a problem abandoning logic? It's a tool, and should be used appropriately. I love my drill, but I'll trade it for a hammer if I find a nail instead of a screw. The problem is, you abandon logic when it serves you to do so.

As an answer, I'd say there isn't a "correct", unless we agree to define the concept. If "correct" means maximum well-being(which I think it should in this case), then we need a little more information. Does the 'good of the few' add up to less total good than the good of the many? If so, then the good of the many outweigh the good of the few. The few still have rights, but the majority weighs more thus rules.

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