Sarah Palin: Good, Bad or just the wrong choice?

LanDroid · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:50 am Post subject:

Here's Steven Pinker on Palin...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04pinker.html?_r=1&ref=opini on&oref=slogin

LanDroid · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:53 am Post subject:

``Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backward,''

Except in that sentence, she looks backward to two different events. "Say it ain't so" refers to the baseball scandal involving Shoeless Joe Jackson and "there you go again" refers to a refrain Reagan repeated in one of his debates. No no, looking back is not allowed! Confused

Grim · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject:

Amazing, it really contrasts her seeming tone of levity, and the smirk. The crowd had a good chuckle. I had no idea she could be so referential on the spot like that. Do you think she had the phrase memorized before hand?

Mr. Pessimistic · Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:15 am Post subject:

NaddiaAoC · Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:08 am Post subject:

Mr. P said:

Dissident Heart · Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject:

Besides being wrong about Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, the Economic Bail-out, Biblical Literalism, American History, Constitutional Law, Climate Change, Sustainable Industries, and the Failure of Corporate Capitalism...Palin is the worst sort of cynical ploy to distract US voters from the disasterous policies and practices her Party has forcefully enacted over (in the very least) the last 8 years.

GentleReader9 · Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject:

First, I apologize for just disappearing for the whole weekend. I had a lot going on, but I could have quickly explained that somewhere. It wasn't personal, just life intervening.

Second, it's perfectly valid to ask "Who is being racist?"

I meant that the general tenor of the race has been impacted by speculations in the media along the lines of "Is America ready for it's First Black President?" or pitting the supposed appeal/drawback of supporting women in the person of Hillary Clinton against the supposed appeal/drawback of supporting people of color in the person of Obama. This framing shows our society is still racist enough to seriously ask these questions. In a non-racist, non-sexist society candidates would be assessed according to their stand on issues and whether or not they had the skills and experience that make a person a good president. Period.

In addition to this generally racist atmosphere of our media, there have been specific smear tactics, including the dissemination of racist misinformation (I'm not repeating any) that has had to be countered about Obama, inappropriate comments (such as "he should stick to basketball" when Obama was revealed not to be a great bowler -- a skill not needed in a President of the U.S. at all) and even hate crimes, such as the recent hanging of an effigy of Obama on the George Fox College Campus accompanied by an anti-affirmative action message. (George Fox would have deplored such an act of violence, by the way.)

In that sort of atmosphere, McCain and Palin both should be careful to be clear about what they are talking about when they discuss disagreement with historic Supreme Court decisions. To state vaguely that you are for "States Rights" in answer to that question "Which other famous decisions of the Supreme Court do you disagree with?" in such a context, when that is most famously known as the code word reasoning used to argue for the rights of states that wanted to oppress African Americans in at least two famous instances, really begs the question that no journalist in our current media is asking. I think we should ask: what cases is she talking about? Why doesn't she mention the names or at least what the issues in question were?

As has too often been the case with recent politicians from Ronald Reagan on, we are left to wonder, did she really mean what that sounds like or is she just too stupid to think of one Supreme Court decision she doesn't like? Either way, it's not the quality of thought a politician needs for me to want them to represent this country to the world.

Does that explain it? I wish people would ask Palin to explain her comments about States Rights that thoroughly.

Robert Tulip · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:

Now for the Dan Quayle test - can Sarah spell potatoe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potatoe#Spelling

imnosalinger · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:

I'm not sure the question is if she's too inexperienced, I think the real question is if she's smart enough.

Obama may be inexperienced in certain arenas, but I've never heard him tell a reported he'd try to find some examples and get back with him, though his 57 states comment was embarrassing, but much different than the whole interview situation, IMHO.

Mr. Pessimistic · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:54 am Post subject:

imnosalinger · Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:16 am Post subject:

Yeah, what's up with that Good Ol' Boy, red-neck image.

I'm so embarrassed that he's from my state. We already deal with enough unflattering stereotypes, then Mr. Bush gets elected and for the first time in history there is an inaugural hoe-down and the newly elected president of the United States is showing off his 5,000 boots to the press.

Mr. Pessimistic · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject:

Wow...how can anyone not want to beat the crap out of people like this?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/17/racist.obama.news letter.kcal

Dissident Heart

Christopher Hitchens on Sarah Palin http://www.slate.com/id/2202163/

GentleReader9 · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject:

Mr. Pessimistic asked:


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