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Frank, I've seen that happen a lot.


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Post Re: Sam Harris shows off his Bible Knowledge
Yea, I sort of figured that I was not alone in that boat 8)


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Post Re: Sam Harris shows off his Bible Knowledge
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Oh, please knock off the self-congratulatory nonsense about being open-minded and tolerant. If you went to a Christian website using the kind of vulgar language I have seen used on BT I can understand why you would have been banned but not for expressing ideas.


Yes I have been banned from Christian forums, but obviously I went in without using profanity. I really sent one particular JW host over the edge with my mythicist rebuttle. I was banned simply because he didn't want the members subject to the arguments I was making about the extent of the paganism in the bible. My whole angle was to go in agreeing with their views on pagan holidays and such, but then to go further and expose the paganism of the entire NT to where it's necessarily throwaway in full. He didn't want to take his paganism mixed into Christianity investigation quite that far.


Poor example. JW's are not Christians they are a cult. If the site had a JW for a host it wasn't a Christian site. JW's don't celebrate holidays.

On the other hand, I can't remember any posts that I would consider offensive enough to warrant banning though if I were running the site there would be no profanity allowed. It is a very poor communicator who resorts to profanity in normal discourse. The only place it belongs is Parriss Island.

BTW, you probably think altering my username is funny but it may actually be a form of Plagiarism

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From nearly my first post I have been belittled, sworn at, told to leave, threatened with being banned, threatened with bodily injury, and much more. I mention this not as a complaint, but as a rebuttal to the blatant fabrication above.


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If BT were not open minded and tolerant, you wouldn't be posting right now. Obviously BT is very, very tolerant regardless of the freespeech and freethought ideas that fly around here which you find so offensive. If you're that offended the door is wide open and you really can leave at any time. People do play pretty rough around here and you must enjoy that Stahrwe, or rather Stahrwe's, hence you still post on these forums very regularly. You're actually rather addicted to this forum and can hardly consider ever leaving it.


What do I find offensive?
What do you mean by rough? do you mean the names and threats, etc.? I don't find them offensive, merely childish.
I have no plans to 'leave' I'm afraid if I ever came back I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between BookTalk and freethoughtnation.

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Someone threatened you with bodily harm @ BT? I must have missed that one. Do any BT members even live in Brevard County in the first place in order to carry out bodily harm?


I didn't take it seriously, and anyway one of my best friends is a Judge.


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Post Re: Sam Harris shows off his Bible Knowledge
Stahrwe, truth be told I live in a community full of Christian fundies - SDA's and Sunday keeping fundies. I get along just fine with everyone in day to day life and don't really bother getting into heated topics like we do here on the forums. Once in a while I may indulge in some debate if I feel that it's the thing to do, but I generally avoid it these days.

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I have no plans to 'leave' I'm afraid if I ever came back I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between BookTalk and freethoughtnation.

You are the difference between BT and FTN!!! The difference is that you post here and not there. Both communities are dominately freethinking and privy to the mythological dimension of the bible. Mythicist views are held at both.

I was actually surprised by the level of insight and knowledge I found when I followed Tulips link to this forum. Frank, Interbane, Johnson, Geo, and several others have quite the back ground knowledge. That makes this forum unique in that way too. Plus the regular posters here are generally a well read and intellectually fit lot. That I enjoy as well. And of course you're the token fundie in these parts who keeps things fired up and lively all the time. So really it's pretty good all around because of the constant action and activity.

Yeah, Tulip wants you banned but I don't really care one way or the other at this point in time. I perceive your arguments and the usual straw men fallacies you provide here as very toothless and openly wrong, just as you percieve most of what I post. Hey, fairs fair and you certainly have the right feel that way about me, although I do strongly believe that your mind is completely deluded with mythological fantasy. Mine was too at one point, so I feel that I have the right to call it as it because I'm not excluding myself from those charges. I was very deluded when I believed in the bible literally. I don't mind sharing that particular folly along side of you. I actually had a hell of a laugh last December as I was driving up Wickham and passed by the Sarno intersection. All I could think of was your story about the garbage heep on Sarno road. Good stuff Stahrwe, you're always keeping it interesting.

But still I must insist that you're dead wrong about Harris, of course. I wish you could step out of your fixed perspective for a second long enough to see it from our view. I understand why you think that but Harris's comment really was given from an understanding of the 10 commandments and Jesus thereafter. He's not ignorant about the Golden Rule. I don't even fancy reading Harris myself, but I think you've raised a straw man fallacy here against Harris and that isn't dishonest of you to do that. You may not like him or what he stands for but raising a straw man isn't the best way to address that.


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