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DWill  Stupendously Brilliant
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DWill  Stupendously Brilliant
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:23 am Post subject:
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| giselle wrote: |
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But despite all that the shepherd has to offer it seems his proposal is doomed to fail as the Nymph rejects him in the sequel poem. |
I had forgotten about Raleigh's real-world reply to Marlowe; thanks for showing it to us. This pair of poems gives me an idea for a thread called "Sequel Poems." There might be a fair number of these poems, where another poet says, "No, it's really like this!" Or sometimes a poet answers himself. How many can we find?
The Passionate Shepherd to His Love
Come live with me and be my love,
And we will all the pleasures prove
That valleys, groves, hills, and fields,
Woods or steepy mountain yields.
And we will sit upon the rocks,
Seeing the shepherds feed their flocks,
By shallow rivers to whose falls
Melodious birds sing madrigals.
And I will make thee beds of roses
And a thousand fragrant posies,
A cap of flowers, and a kirtle
Embroidered all with leaves of myrtle;
A gown made of the finest wool
Which from our pretty lambs we pull;
Fair lined slippers for the cold,
With buckles of th purest gold;
A belt of straw and ivy buds,
With coral clasps and amber studs:
And if these pleasures may thee move,
Come live with me and be my love.
The shepherds' swains shall dance and sing
For thy delight each May morning:
If these delights thy mind may move,
Then live with me and be my love.
The Nymph’s Reply to the Shepherd
by Sir Walter Ralegh [/b]
If all the world and love were young,
And truth in every Shepherd’s tongue,
These pretty pleasures might me move,
To live with thee, and be thy love.
Time drives the flocks from field to fold,
When Rivers rage and Rocks grow cold,
And Philomel becometh dumb,
The rest complains of cares to come.
The flowers do fade, and wanton fields,
To wayward winter reckoning yields,
A honey tongue, a heart of gall,
Is fancy’s spring, but sorrow’s fall.
Thy gowns, thy shoes, thy beds of Roses,
Thy cap, thy kirtle, and thy posies
Soon break, soon wither, soon forgotten:
In folly ripe, in reason rotten.
Thy belt of straw and Ivy buds,
The Coral clasps and amber studs,
All these in me no means can move
To come to thee and be thy love.
But could youth last, and love still breed,
Had joys no date, nor age no need,
Then these delights my mind might move
To live with thee, and be thy love.[/quote] |
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giselle Experienced
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: sequels
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thanks dwill, i was thinking about how the Passionate Shepherd/Nymph demonstrates the sequel idea when i posted this...
also i'm thinking about the origins of writing and poetry, at least in English, and about the epic poem, how this might relate to the telling of stories/oral history tradition that predated writing and still exists today. i imagine in the oral tradition, one may have 'memorized' a story/poem and then the story is added too and enhanced as it is told, becoming an oral sequel and maybe an epic .. one such epic that comes to mind is Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. this is written as a single poem but originally it may have been a string of oral sequels (pure speculation on my part).
now that you have posted these two poems together and I read them as one, i like the 'conversation' that the Shepherd and Nymph have. i still think the Nymph is pretty demanding, but then, maybe that is just how Nymphs are. |
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Saffron  Stupendously Brilliant

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject:
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I am still thinking about the pairs of poems and haven't come up with one yet. Instead, here is a favorite Emily Dickinson and also it is a poem of the moment.
She sweeps with many-colored brooms,
And leaves the shreds behind;
Oh, housewife in the evening west,
Come back, and dust the pond!
You dropped a purple ravelling in,
You dropped an amber thread;
And now you've littered all the East
With duds of emerald!
And still she plies her spotted brooms,
And still the aprons fly,
Till brooms fade softly into stars
And then I come away. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject:
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A poem of the night.
Wild Nights
By Emily Dickinson
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Wild nights! Wild nights!
Were I with thee,
Wild nights should be
Our luxury!
Futile the winds
To a heart in port,
Done with the compass,
Done with the chart.
Rowing in Eden!
Ah! the sea!
Might I but moor
To-night in thee! |
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Saffron  Stupendously Brilliant

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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:
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A poem of the night.
Wild Nights
By Emily Dickinson
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This is one of my all time favorite poems! It always makes me happy to read it and a little wistful. |
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giselle Experienced
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject:
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A poem of the night.
Wild Nights
By Emily Dickinson
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This is one of my all time favorite poems! It always makes me happy to read it and a little wistful. |
I'm with you, Saffron, definitely a happy/wistful thing happening here. I'm becoming an Emily Dickinson fan. |
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Saffron  Stupendously Brilliant

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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:57 am Post subject:
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I love this poem. My daughter read it during our 4th Advent celebration.
Simplex Munditiis
Still to be neat, still to be dressed,
As you were going to a feast;
Still to be powdered, still perfumed:
Lady, it is to be presumed,
Though art's hid causes are not found,
All is not sweet, all is not sound.
Give me a look, give me a face,
That makes simplicity a grace;
Robes loosely flowing, hair as free:
Such sweet neglect more taketh me
Than all the adulteries of art;
They strike mine eyes, but not my heart. |
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farmgirlshelley I can enter The Chamber

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject:
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I love the Wild Geese Poem. I have never heard it before.
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farmgirlshelley I can enter The Chamber

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: The Sick Rose
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I have so many favorites, here is one that I really like
O Rose, thou art sick!
The invisible worm,
That flies in the night,
In the howling storm,
Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy;
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy. |
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Saffron  Stupendously Brilliant

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject:
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| farmgirlshelley wrote: |
I love the Wild Geese Poem. I have never heard it before.
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It is one of my favorites! Glad you found something you like in our little poetry thread. |
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