Problem with evidence

Frank 013 · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: Problem with evidence

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Isn't it physically possible?

Yes but only if all of the prayers are schizophrenic or delusional.

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The odds of impossible things happening at a macro level are astoundingly low from what I hear.

Or impossible, if the impossible happened even once in a millennia life would not be able to exist on this planet.

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Who says it has to be our technology? And how can we be sure of what technology exists.

We have physics to help us know what would be possible through technology and what should not.

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The point of a coincidence is there's no reason it happened it just did due to random unpredictability.

Actually coincidence is predicted all of the time it is as reliable as the sun rising. Just as we know that some people will survive what is normally deemed terminal cancer, we can generally predict what events have a chance of being random enough to allow for coincidence.

My example is too impossible for coincidence to play a part.

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And? Maybe our study is just not advanced enough to understand it.

That is always a possibility.

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How will we be sure that these events are really happening? Even if we did it ourselves how would we know it’s not an illusion?

The same way we would determine if any earthly action was really happening corroboration. In my example the events would be common enough to allow for study.

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MaesterAuron151 · Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Problem with evidence

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It’s impossible to determine without evidence, but about the same as pink space unicorns or Galactic Chickens.

We're going in circles here. How do you determine what's evidence without knowing the probability?

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Because any scientific answer would be insanely improbable

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The simplest answer and so forth…

Simplest? Last time I checked science was about finding the right answer no matter how complicated.

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Only impossible for them, not the entire planet’s population, you are failing to grasp the numbers here or the whole picture.

Who's to say that some super advanced culture wouldn't see these things as "impossible for them"

Besides your missing the point. The point is a particular word or name associated with something can't be considered evidence that that word or name has is the thing causing that something or even that it has any real purpose or meaning.

The whole computer thing is a metaphor to demonstrate this concept.

Frank 013 · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: Re: Problem with evidence

Nothing against your arguments, but I have simply lost interest in this thread.

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MaesterAuron151 · Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Problem with evidence

Thats fine with me. I've come across very few resolvable debates. This one had clearly reached the point where it wasn't going anywhere.

Edited by: MaesterAuron151 at: 1/26/07 11:30 pm

Chris OConnor · Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: Re: Problem with evidence

The problem with evidence is that evidence can screw up a perfectly good belief.


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