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Post Totalitarian religious quackery in Iran
I really enjoyed this article by Christopher Hitchens on the recent elections in Iran. It seemed apropos to some recent discussions here and I am posting it to see if it generates some discussion. If not, that's fine too.

http://www.slate.com/id/2220520/

Don't Call What Happened in Iran Last Week an Election

It was a crudely stage-managed insult to everyone involved.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Sunday, June 14, 2009, at 6:41 PM ET

For a flavor of the political atmosphere in Tehran, Iran, last week, I quote from a young Iranian comrade who furnishes me with regular updates:
I went to the last major Ahmadinejad rally and got the whiff of what I imagine fascism to have been all about. Lots of splotchy boys who can't get a date are given guns and told they're special.

It's hard to better this, either as an evocation of the rancid sexual repression that lies at the nasty core of the "Islamic republic" or as a description of the reserve strength that the Iranian para-state, or state within a state, can bring to bear if it ever feels itself even slightly challenged. There is a theoretical reason why the events of the last month in Iran (I am sorry, but I resolutely decline to refer to them as elections) were a crudely stage-managed insult to those who took part in them and those who observed them. And then there is a practical reason. The theoretical reason, though less immediately dramatic and exciting, is the much more interesting and important one.

Iran and its citizens are considered by the Shiite theocracy to be the private property of the anointed mullahs. This totalitarian idea was originally based on a piece of religious quackery promulgated by the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and known as velayat-e faqui. Under the terms of this edict—which originally placed the clerics in charge of the lives and property of orphans, the indigent, and the insane—the entire population is now declared to be a childlike ward of the black-robed state. Thus any voting exercise is, by definition, over before it has begun, because the all-powerful Islamic Guardian Council determines well in advance who may or may not "run." Any newspaper referring to the subsequent proceedings as an election, sometimes complete with rallies, polls, counts, and all the rest of it, is the cause of helpless laughter among the ayatollahs. ("They fell for it? But it's too easy!") Shame on all those media outlets that have been complicit in this dirty lie all last week. And shame also on our pathetic secretary of state, who said that she hoped that "the genuine will and desire" of the people of Iran would be reflected in the outcome. Surely she knows that any such contingency was deliberately forestalled to begin with.

In theory, the first choice of the ayatollahs might not actually "win," and there could even be divisions among the Islamic Guardian Council as to who constitutes the best nominee. Secondary as that is, it can still lead to rancor. After all, corrupt systems are still subject to fraud. This, like hypocrisy, is the compliment that vice pays to virtue. With near-incredible brutishness and cruelty, then, the guardians moved to cut off cell-phone and text-message networks that might give even an impression of fairness and announced through their storm-troop "revolutionary guards" that only one form of voting had divine sanction. ("The miraculous hand of God," announced Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, had been present in the polling places and had announced a result before many people had even finished voting. He says that sort of thing all the time.)

The obvious evidence of fixing, fraud, and force to one side, there is another reason to doubt that an illiterate fundamentalist like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could have increased even a state-sponsored plebiscite-type majority. Everywhere else in the Muslim world, in every election in the last two years, the tendency has been the other way. In Morocco in 2007, the much-ballyhooed Justice and Development Party wound up with 14 percent of the vote. In Malaysia and Indonesia, the predictions of increased market share for the pro-Sharia parties were likewise falsified.

In Iraq this last January, the local elections penalized the clerical parties that had been making life a misery in cities like Basra. In neighboring Kuwait last month, the Islamist forces did poorly, and four women—including the striking figure of Rola Dashti, who refuses to wear any headgear—were elected to the 50-member parliament. Most important of all, perhaps, Iranian-sponsored Hezbollah was convincingly and unexpectedly defeated last week in Lebanon after an open and vigorous election, the results of which were not challenged by any party. And, from all I hear, if the Palestinians were to vote again this year—as they were at one point supposed to do—it would be highly improbable that Hamas would emerge the victor.

Yet somehow a senile and fanatical religious clique that has failed even to condition the vote in a country like Lebanon, where it has proxy and surrogate parties under arms, is able to reward itself by increasing its "majority" in a festeringly bankrupt state where it controls the media and enjoys a monopoly of violence. I think we should deny it any official recognition of this consolation. (I recommend a reading of "Neither Free Nor Fair: Elections in the Islamic Republic of Iran" and other productions of the Abdorrahman Boroumand Foundation. This shows that past penalties for not pleasing the Islamic Guardian Council have included more than mere disqualification and have extended to imprisonment and torture and death, sometimes in that order. A new movie by Cyrus Nowrasteh, The Stoning of Soraya M., will soon show what happens to those who dare to dissent in other ways and are dealt with by Ahmadinejad's "grass roots" fanatics.)

Mention of the Lebanese elections impels me to pass on what I saw with my own eyes at a recent Hezbollah rally in south Beirut, Lebanon. In a large hall that featured the official attendance of a delegation from the Iranian Embassy, the most luridly displayed poster of the pro-Iranian party was a nuclear mushroom cloud! Underneath this telling symbol was a caption warning the "Zionists" of what lay in store. We sometimes forget that Iran still officially denies any intention of acquiring nuclear weapons. Yet Ahmadinejad recently hailed an Iranian missile launch as a counterpart to Iran's success with nuclear centrifuges, and Hezbollah has certainly been allowed to form the idea that the Iranian reactors may have nonpeaceful applications. This means, among other things, that the vicious manipulation by which the mullahs control Iran can no longer be considered their "internal affair." Fascism at home sooner or later means fascism abroad. Face it now or fight it later. Meanwhile, give it its right name.

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Post Re: Totalitarian religious quackery in Iran
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. . . I quote from a young Iranian comrade [Iranian fellow communist]. . .


I suppose you wanted to get a rise from me, Geo. OK. The language is loaded, the argument fallacious, and evidence fabricated. Typical atheistic propaganda.

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And atheists, being a well-oiled conglomerate of like-minded over-lords are known for their prapaganda. I remember Mr. Hitchens bringing this article up in our meeting the other day. It's even better than when he read it to us in assembly, by candlelight no less!

Just the other day i was sowing seeds of dissent!

Geo. i applaud your ability to help the Atheists.... wait, i need to cue up "night on bald mountain" real quick. I can't hold athiest thoughts in my head without evil accompaniment.... better.

Geo. I applaud your ability to spread the word of Atheism. If there was only some way we could FORCE everyone to believe exactly what we believe, then i think the world would be perfect.

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The not so obvious message of this is that atheists arent an organization. we don't have prapaganda to spread. hitchens doesnt speak for us. Dawkins doesnt speak for us. These authors speak for themselves. Some atheists agree with them, some dont. Just like everyone else.


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Mulla Nasruddin went to vote.

"Who are you voting for?" asked the keeper of the ballot box. "The savior of our country or the devil?"

"What's the difference?" asked Mulla.

"If you vote for the savior of our country, you get a handful of ballots," said the keeper of the ballot box. "If you vote for the devil, just one."

"I'll vote for the devil then," replied Mulla. "I hate paperwork."

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I suppose you wanted to get a rise from me, Geo. OK. The language is loaded, the argument fallacious, and evidence fabricated. Typical atheistic propaganda.


First of all, that article was written by Christopher Hitchens, an atheist that does his homework… he is well respected by both atheists and theists alike.

Your claims are simply silly; the facts are not fallacious, fabricated or intended to get a rise out of you personally. Hitchens has earned his credibility… Most of what is written there has been confirmed by other news agencies both here and abroad... there is no good reason to doubt its accuracy.

And I still wonder why you find it necessary to insult all atheists with your every comment about us… we now have “atheist propaganda”?

You are talking about a group of people that are extremely independent, it has been said that organizing atheists is as futile as cat herding… One thing I know can organize us though… religious intolerance.

If you want true propaganda see the church’s’ claims about atheists… I think those better qualify.

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TH: "I suppose you wanted to get a rise from me, Geo. OK. The language is loaded, the argument fallacious, and evidence fabricated. Typical atheistic propaganda."

Actually, he was baiting you with this article to show everyone that you're in league with the Shiite theocracy. You bit!

Nice signature also. I would expand it to think critically about everything, not just critical thinking itself. Idiocy is everywhere after all.

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Thank you for posting Hitchens' article Geo. As ever, he provides an incisive and clear summary of the problem. Iran is very dangerous. The use of the planned atomic bombing of Israel as a propaganda tool by Hezbollah in Lebanon supports Hitchens' argument that Iranian fascism is exporting its problems and needs to be confronted. The extent of theocratic fraud in Iran illustrates the corruption inherent in mixing religion and politics when the religion in question is a throwback to medieval irrationality.

I think Hitchens is too harsh on Hillary Clinton. Obama has to build links with the Muslim world through conciliatory rhetoric to repair the damage done by Bush, to provide a basis for dialogue and alliance in isolating the crazy extremists in Iran. Bush (and perhaps Hitchens for that matter) are also extreme in their own ways. Clinton and Obama have wisely sought a conciliatory path before opening the new front which the Churchill of Slate demands.

Paul Collier has a very good related piece on how to steal elections - The Dictator's Handbook - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms. ... ry_id=4877


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To Thomas:

Not trying to start another atheist-theist rant. I just admire Christopher Hitchens's ability to get to the nuts and bolts of the matter and I think he's right on the money in describing Iran as an insane theocracy. Actually I would think this is a subject atheists and theists can get together on. This is not us vs. them. Extremism in any form is dangerous and I'm sure we all agree on that.

That said, the title of this thread is probably a bit provocative. :D

To Robert:

I liked Hitchen's message that we can face it now or fight it later. I don't know if that's true or not, but the Obama administration has to do something different, that's for sure. Thanks for the Collier article. I'll read it when I'm offline. I'm on vacation in Maryland for the next week with fairly limited internet. I'll keep checking in. Thanks guys.

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