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irishrosem 
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 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: Double amputee barred from competing in Olympics
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I’ve been following Oscar Pistorius’s story since I first heard about it last year. He’s a 20-year-old, born without fibulas, who has been competing in the Paralympics. He’s handily set records in the 100, 200 and 400 meter Paralympics World Cup. His intention was to compete in the Olympics in Beijing, but the IAAF ruled today that Pistorius could not compete in any able-bodied competitions, as his prosthetics give him an unfair advantage.
Here’s a good article about the situation that I read a while back in the New York Times, before the decision was made.
When I first heard about this, I thought, “My god, the guy doesn’t have any legs and he’s competing at the elite world level.” Then I heard talk about how the Cheetah prosthetics, with their spring action, could give the runner an unfair advantage. And I thought, “Yeah, but the guy doesn’t have any legs and he’s competing with world class athletes.” Plus the spring is meant to mimic the energy consumption and propulsion that the body naturally creates with its joints—joints that Pistorius, you know, doesn’t have. Then I read Pistorius’s argument that his times didn’t increase dramatically when he started using these specific prosthetics. And he noted that many other paralympic competitors are using the same prosthetics and the field hasn’t changed. He’s competing at a much higher level than all other amputee competitors. And, you know, the guy doesn’t have any legs. Then I heard about the purity of competition, and how essential it is to safeguard against even the slightest chances of advantages. And I thought, “Yeah, but…but the guy doesn’t have any legs!”
As you can see, I’m at a lost, but I never competed in track and field. Anyone have an opinion on the decision? |
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| My opinion is that I don't really know what the hell the modern Olympics is supposed to be about, so I don't know how to judge a case like this. If it's just about physical excellence, like the original Olympics were, then the decision would make a certain amount of sense. It would be, by nature, biased against people with physical handicaps, yes, but that was just the nature of the beast. If, on the other hand, they're just about international unity, as the modern Olympics were (I think) intended, then I'm not sure what difference it makes. But as it stands, I think the Olympics have deviated from both intentions, and I'm not sure there's any real consensus as to what they mean. |
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| Then I heard about the purity of competition, and how essential it is to safeguard against even the slightest chances of advantages. |
This strikes me as untrue. Athletes who are supported so they can train regularly, with top notch equipment, with all the best gear, have a great advantage over athletes who don't have this support.
If they are so worried about advantages, every athlete should use the same make and model of skis, bobsleds, skates, etc.
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This strikes me as untrue. Athletes who are supported so they can train regularly, with top notch equipment, with all the best gear, have a great advantage over athletes who don't have this support.
If they are so worried about advantages, every athlete should use the same make and model of skis, bobsleds, skates, etc. |
There is a subtle difference between the advantages you're pointing out and the advantage that Pistorius has been ruled to have. Those advantages are about getting the most out of an athlete's body, whereas the prosthetic limbs in question add a propulsive force. That's different to, say, a bike that reduces the effect of wind resistance due to streamlining. That adds no force to the athlete's effort, but reduces an outside force. The IOC seems to be saying that his prosthetics are more like adding a motor to the bike. |
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irishrosem
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject:
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| Mad wrote: |
| If it's just about physical excellence, like the original Olympics were, then the decision would make a certain amount of sense. |
Something that I read, and it might be in The New York Times article, actually addressed this. Someone made the argument that the reticence to permit Pistorius was based on the bias that a world athlete—an Olympian—has a certain look. And a runner without legs, lining up with his prosthetics, would shatter that image of the Apollonian athlete.
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| …whereas the prosthetic limbs in question add a propulsive force. |
This does seem to be the way the IAAF is going to legally keep Pistorius from competing. But from what I’m hearing, the tests aren’t necessarily all that conclusive. And other tests have found other results.
I guess what bothers me with this whole thing is, as Mad stated above, the Olympics are supposed to invite international fraternity, through friendly but spirited competition. There are also underlying feel-good stories that help people from one part of the world connect with and relate to a person from another part of the world, and thus root for them. Often those feel-good stories are about an athlete persevering against all odds. I think just those intentions should guarantee Pistorius more complete consideration.
Now that’s not to say he would necessarily get to compete on his prosthetics. But it seems as though the consideration was dismissed largely on slippery slope arguments. One representative said if they let Pistorius’s prosthetics, what’s to prevent someone from putting spring contraptions in their running shoes. And the point is, you make rules. There are innumerable rules for all athletic competitions, particularly the Olympics. Very particular, painstaking rules. This isn’t new territory. So now it seems they need to make some meticulous rules to incorporate prosthetics into track and field. But I think eliminating the possibility altogether—to say no, one can’t run on prosthetics at all—seems, well, wrong. |
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