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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Do you believe in spirits? Reply with quote
Do you believe in life afer death?and why?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would not rule out the possibility, but I do not “believe” in anything that has no measurable evidence.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Like Frank, I can't rule out the possibility of a life after death.

I can live my life without needing to know what happens next: I will do the best I can on earth regardless of whether there is a next stage.

In such a simple (for me) question, you have a 50 % chance of being wrong whatever you choose. Whatever is in store for me after death, I will have to face it whether I've made a "decision" about what I believe or not.

I view it as a blessing to know that other people believe in life after death (and have sometimes spent their lives discussing the fine points of it) and not be affected by that possibility, not even feel the need to choose camps.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I live in quite an old house - built in 1834. I have lived here for almost thirty years. We have a very sweet and peaceful ghost - a soldier, a very young man in uniform.

We call him George. He has been seen by people other than myself.

He has a certain smell - not unpleasant and he turns up often if we are decorating or doing any house alterations or improvements.

He has a very peaceful and reassuring presence and is not the least bit spooky.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am energy, therefore I can be neither created nor destroyed. I can only change form......... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't live with any doubt about this question: when my body dies, my existence as Will is over. That is the only existence that has meaning to me. If something "impersonal" survives after death, as some say, that's fine. But I'm indifferent to that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
One of the most common mistakes is to assume that every situation that has two potential outcomes means there is a 50/50 probability of either occuring. I don't have time to elaborate much on this right now, but I'll ask a quick question to make my point...

A man claims he can shoot 16 pound bowling balls out of his ass at 600 mph. Either he can or he can't. There are two mutually exclusive outcomes. He cannot both do and not do this.

Make a rough estimate of the probability that this man can actually fire the bowlings balls out of his ass at close to the speed of sound.
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Even if the man could... would he want to?

That action sounds very painful! Mad

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I am energy, therefore I can be neither created nor destroyed. I can only change form......... Very Happy


This is the only trek into any kind of 'spiritual' realm I can accept. It is true after all. The energy and matter that makes us goes on.



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Even if the man could... would he want to?

That action sounds very painful! Mad

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Well, when I was making my 'leather goods' a few years back, I met some people that might actually enjoy this Frank!

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I am energy, therefore I can be neither created nor destroyed. I can only change form......... Very Happy


This is the only trek into any kind of 'spiritual' realm I can accept. It is true after all. The energy and matter that makes us goes on.



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Ha ha, thanks Mr. P. I guess science can be "spiritual" depending on how you look at it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ha ha, thanks Mr. P. I guess science can be "spiritual" depending on how you look at it.


Oh absolutely! I agree with that and this is the point many people without religion, spirituality and god try to explain to those that think us devoid of any deep understanding of existence. In fact, I think there is so much MORE to amaze that comes from science and a true understanding of the world as compared to what comes from something that is for all intents just myth and made up stories.

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Science truly can be amazing. I think whether you fall into the realm of the religious or into the realm of the scientific, existance itself intrigues everyone. No matter what my beliefs, I am still amazed at the birth of a baby or at a seed growing into a tree.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree, it is the most wonderful thing to experience.

BUT - what about when the baby is born - not perfect....malformed in fact.. what happens when it is is your own baby....and you feel 'relief' as much as grief when that baby dies.

That is when you need to find some spiritual hand to hold......that is when you know you don't have the inner resources and need help and assurance from somewhere 'other'.
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I agree, it is the most wonderful thing to experience.

BUT - what about when the baby is born - not perfect....malformed in fact.. what happens when it is is your own baby....and you feel 'relief' as much as grief when that baby dies.

That is when you need to find some spiritual hand to hold......that is when you know you don't have the inner resources and need help and assurance from somewhere 'other'.


That is also just not true though...it is an assertion based on your emotional makeup0 maybe, but I know plenty of people, myself included, that does NOT need a 'spiritual hand' to help us carry on.

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