You are browsing the forum as a guest. Please log in or register to access additional features.
Online reading group and book discussion forum
  HOME ABOUT BOOKS TRANSCRIPTS LINKS BLOGS DONATE CONTACT  

     Log in   Register 


BookTalk.org News
• BookTalk.org News will soon go out via email in HTML format. The goal will be to keep people posted on our current book discussions and other relevant news items.
• Contest #2: "On The Importance of Reading" has started. Visit the Contests forum - the very top thread.

Links & Resources

Community Rules & Tips
For Authors & Publishers
Link to our old forum
Books we've ordered
Book Suggestions
Donations to BookTalk.org
BookTalk Forum Statistics
Games 170 FREE Games


Donate & Support BookTalk.org

Please support our free community by making a credit card donation through our secure PayPal account. We appreciate and depend on the generosity of our members. Thank you!

See who supports us


Show us where you live!
BookTalk.org Member Map

Featured Member Blogs

Theomanic's blog
Lawrenceindestin's blog
Penelope's blog
Frank 013's blog
President Camacho's blog

- All Member Blogs
- Blog News


Chat Room

Enter the BookTalk.org Chat Room
Enter Chat Room

Amazon Kindle
Amazon Kindle Wireless Reading Device

Author Interviews

•Noam Chomsky
   Interventions
• Eugenie C. Scott
   Evolution vs. Creationism
• A.C. Grayling
   What is Good?
• Lee Harris
   Civilization and Its Enemies
• Ann Druyan
   Pale Blue Dot
• Michael Shermer
   How We Believe
• Matt Ridley
   The Red Queen
• Stephen Pinker
   The Blank Slate
• Massimo Pigliucci
   Rationally Speaking
• Richard Dawkins
   Unweaving the Rainbow
• Howard Bloom
   Global Brain
• Howard Bloom
   The Lucifer Principle




Related Links

Display Pagerank


Ophelia goes to America:the driving test.


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BookTalk.org Forum Index -> Humor, Polls & Fun Stuff
Author Message
Ophelia Ophelia has been starred
Beyond Awesome
Fiction Moderator
Book Discussion Leader

Avatar



Joined: 25 Nov 2007

Posts: 1075
Gender: Female
Location: France
ee.gif



PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Ophelia goes to America:the driving test. Reply with quote
I wonder whether anybody would be interested in learning about funny things which happened to me during my year in California (1991, not 2007).

First I have to explain about the two rites of passage into adulthood in France: the Baccalauréat and the driving test.

The Baccalauréat is the final exam you take at the end of high school. You are tested in at least 8 subjects with 4 hour papers for each of them, and then if you pass you have automatic access to university, no further selection. That's the easy one, and the taxpayer is happy to foot the bill.

The driving test I found much more stressful, as the examiners' standards were impossibly high and all learning has to be done in an official school with high tariffs (this was before the British system of being allowed to learn with your parents in the family car -- if the parents could live through the ordreal-- was introduced).

The sad truth is I had to take the driving test three times - this was a personal disaster, the only time I had ever had to take a test again, and my father's patience was wearing thin as he was footing the bill.
One of the reasons I failed was that I was told I was driving too slowly in town -- they made sure the test took place in the most tricky parts of town with narrow streets everywhere and traffic coming from all directions, etc...

Anyway, many years after I had officially been initiated into adulthood, I decided to go on a teacher's exchange programme in the US.
The Ministry of Education organized meetings before we left, and I learnt that I would have to take my driving test again. I knew that this is what Americans did when they moved to another state, but to me the prospect was ominous.

Once in California, I bought a car, drove around happily for two months, postponed the test for as long as I possibly could, but I needed the licence for insurance purposes, and also shop assistants demanded to see my Californian driving licence everytime I wanted to buy something, and life was becoming difficult.

A European friend of mine took pity on me , explained it was really easy, and for starters offered to take me to the spot where the driving tests took place in San Diego. Oh, so this was known to all and sundry? Indeed, it was.
Seeing the place was a great comfort. It was a residential area in San Diego, with very wide streets and no traffic-- I wondered how many people ever failed-- but it was becoming clear that failing people was not the point.

Then I took the written part of the exam: it was in a large building with a nice lady in a cubicle at the entrance. Her only question was in which language I wished to take the test. I said in English, got my MCQ, and was invited to sit wherever I liked.
I started the test and noticed that people around the room were openly using the answer book -- in the language of their choice probably--
in France it had felt like the people watching you taking the test were policemen in plain clothing, and nobody would have dreamt of cheating anyway.

Then I went back to the nice lady, who told me my results were wonderful and I had only one mistake (*I'll write about it below as this is also an interesting point). She smiled, and things were definitely looking good.

A few days later, I drove in my Toyota to pick up my driving examiner at the appointed place.
He handed me a form which informed would-be holders of a Californian driving licence that it was really unnecessary to chat with the examiner as this was not a social occasion (I can tell you no such forms are necessary in France, just surviving half an hour with them being silent is enough of an ordeal).

We went to the nice official place, and the equivalent of a manoeuvre in France (parking in an impossibly small place for example, not being allowed to try again if first attempt as not satisfactory) was... a U-turn in one of these wide empty streets -- I suppose one has to make allowances for people taking the test in a Limousine if that's the only car they own.

I kept wondering if something tricky was coming next, but next was just taking the examiner back to he center, and being complimented on my driving skills.
Back to top
jales4 jales4 has been starred
Intern

Avatar



Joined: 10 Oct 2007

Posts: 165
Gender: Female
Location: Northern Canada


PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Ophelia,

I would definetly be interested in hearing about your American assimilation.

Close friends of ours originally came from England, and we spent many happy hours exclaiming over the differences in our countries.

Just how different our homes were was suprising - they didn't have top cupboards in the kitchen, no deep freezers for extra meat, tiny washing machine and dryer in the kitchen.

And they talked about when they rented, having to pay for electric, telephone, and television with coins in a slot instead of being billed monthly. Oh, and being paid weekly rather than biweekly.

And no travel mugs - no drive-thru coffee places. People just didn't drink coffee in their cars.

Please do share!! Jan.
Back to top
Chris OConnor Chris OConnor has been starred
Rhodes Scholar
BookTalk.org Owner

Avatar



Joined: 20 Oct 2000

Posts: 6498
Gender: Male
Location: Florida
us.gif



PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Testing something.
Back to top
Penelope Penelope has been starred
Doctorate
Silver Contributor
Silver Contributor

Avatar



Joined: 02 Oct 2007

Posts: 515
Gender: Female
Location: Cheshire, England
ee.gif



PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
OK - Whilst Chris O'Connor is testing his drum....

Jales.....my in-laws took a holiday in Vancouver - flying over by themselves when they were in their mid-eighties.

They drove us mad when they came back - full of enthusiasm. My father in law said Vancouver was always so TIDY. He never saw anyone cutting the grass - but it didn't seem to grow any more than an Axminster carpet.

If you bought an ice cream - you got a serviette.......

They went to vist our friends, Keith and Janet who married in 1964 like us, then immediately emigrated to Canada.

Everything in Janet's kitchen was behind doors - washing machine, fridge, freezer, dishwasher - everything behind polished doors - like a Victorian drawing room. My kitchen is like......well, I can't tell you - a mix of French Provincial and old Lancashire Scullery.......farmhouse with old solid fuel central heating stove.....I love it...but well.....it isn't tidy and it isn't always very clean even. I have to have the stove because that's where the cat lives....and that is where we kick our wellies....to dry off the mud.

Still, when Janet and Keith came over to the UK and visited us.....they said, they thought we were missing certain refinements and utilities...but they were missing....something too.....

Blossom where you're planted.....I guess.
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BookTalk.org Forum Index -> Humor, Polls & Fun Stuff  
Page 1 of 1


 
Recent Topics
» What is Transcendentalism?
by Thomas Hood on Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:40 am

» How can you tell what is and isn't art?
by Moon Knight on Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:27 pm

» j.dalton - New from Colorado
by Ophelia on Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:02 pm

» Is anyone an Anne Rice fan?
by Moon Knight on Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:45 pm

» 32 Sci-Fi Novels You Should Read
by Moon Knight on Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:34 pm

» Hi, I'm New.
by Moon Knight on Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:48 pm

» Does hell exist?
by Moon Knight on Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:06 pm

» Hello from Texas
by President Camacho on Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:13 pm

» Global Warming Deniers
by dillonbrownsisland on Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:41 pm

» An Introduction from California/New author!
by dillonbrownsisland on Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:17 pm




Related Links


BookTalk.org Suggests


The 19th Wife by David Ebershoff

Won't Get Fooled Again by Joseph H. Boyett

Another Time by Roger Neetz

The Art of Hanging by W. Town Andrews, Jr.

Dark Canvas by Jody Summers

Additional Book Suggestions



Poll
Have you ever parked in a handicapped spot?

Yes [2]
No [2]

You must login to vote


MAIN NAVIGATION

HOMEABOUTBOOKSTRANSCRIPTSOLD FORUMSLINKSBLOGSFAQDONATECONTACT

BOOKS WE HAVE DISCUSSED
The Best American Short Stories 2007 edited by Stephen King • 50 reasons people give for believing in a god by Guy P. Harrison • The Great Indian Novel by Shashi Tharoor • Walden: Or, Life in the Woods by Henry David Thoreau • Exile and the Kingdom by Albert Camus • Our Inner Ape: A Leading Primatologist Explains Why We Are Who We Are by Frans de Waal • Your Inner Fish: A Journey into the 3.5-Billion-Year-History of the Human Body by Neil Shubin • No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy • The Age of American Unreason by Susan Jacoby • Ten Theories of Human Nature by Leslie Stevenson & David Haberman • Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad • The Stuff of Thought: Language as a Window Into Human Nature by Stephen Pinker • A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini • The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil by Philip Zimbardo • Responsibility and Judgment by Hannah Arendt • Interventions by Noam Chomsky • Godless in America by George A. Ricker • Religious Expression and the American Constitution by Franklyn S. Haiman • Deep Economy: The Wealth of Communities and the Durable Future by Phil McKibben • The God Delusion by Richard DawkinsThe Third Chimpanzee: The Evolution and Future of the Human Animal by Jared DiamondThe Woman in the Dunes by Abe KoboEvolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction by Eugenie C. ScottThe Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael PollanI, Claudius : From the Autobiography of Tiberius Claudius, Born 10 B.C., Murdered and Deified A.D. 54 by Robert GravesBreaking The Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon by Daniel C. DennettA Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East Peace by David FromkinThe Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey NiffeneggerThe End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason by Sam HarrisEnder's Game by Orson Scott CardThe Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark HaddonValue and Virtue in a Godless Universe by Erik J. WielenbergThe March by E. L DoctorowThe Ethical Brain by Michael GazzanigaFreethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan JacobyCollapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed by Jared DiamondThe Battle for God by Karen ArmstrongThe Future of Life by Edward O. WilsonWhat is Good? The Search for the Best Way to Live by A. C. GraylingCivilization and Its Enemies: The Next Stage of History by Lee HarrisPale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space by Carl SaganHow We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God by Michael ShermerLooking for Spinoza: Joy, Sorrow, and the Feeling Brain by Antonio DamasioLies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right by Al FrankenThe Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature by Matt RidleyThe Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature by Stephen PinkerUnweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder by Richard DawkinsAtheism: A Reader edited by S.T. JoshiGlobal Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From the Big Bang To the 21st Century by Howard BloomThe Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition into the Forces of Nature by Howard BloomGuns, Germs and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies by Jared DiamondThe Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl SaganBury My Heart at Wounded Knee: An Indian History of the American West by Dee BrownFuture Shock by Alvin Toffler

OTHER PAGES
Baloney Detection KitBanned Book ListBook OrdersMassimo Pigliucci Rationally SpeakingOnline Reading GroupTop 10 Atheism Books

Copyright © BookTalk.org 2002-2008. All rights reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group