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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Will you be watching Sopranos and/or Entourage?
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I guess Ill have to be a looser, I simply don't care about the behind the scenes lives of actors (even fictional ones)
And the Sopranos is dull compared to my own family history.
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Will you be watching Sopranos and/or Entourage?
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| I'll be watching Sopranos! I wouldn't miss it! |
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Will you be watching Sopranos and/or Entourage?
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Tony killed Christopher. Forced him to suffocate in his own blood. Was he doing Christopher a favor, saving him from some greater future catastrophe (the infant car seat impaled by the tree limb as foreboding tragedy)? Was he eliminating a constant worry and risk, a weak willed dim witted drug addict who showed his true feelings toward Tony in his horror film debut? Both?
What about the dumping of the abestos laden material into the wetlands? The mindless assault of the Somali man on the bike by the frat boy thugs? As AJ says, "If you're paying attention, how could not be depressed...the whole damned world is fucked up!"
How about Tony in Vegas a la Carlos Castaneda and the peyote trip?
Directions I never anticipated. I did not expect Christopher to go out like this. Great stuff! Edited by: Dissident Heart at: 5/16/07 12:58 am
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Will you be watching Sopranos and/or Entourage?
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| You nailed it, Dissident. I am already planning out the rest of my night to make sure I am on the couch at 9pm! I wish we all lived close together. How cool would it be to have homemade spaghetti and meatballs at my place for the finale?! |
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Will you be watching Sopranos and/or Entourage?
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| So what did you guys think of the Sopranos finale? I have heard a few different interpretations and opinions. I have heard that Tony was killed. I have heard a lot of grumbling about the sudden end. I liked it. Tony and his family lives to deal with more of the ups and downs of life. I felt that it wrapped up a lot of loose ends, but kinda led you to the understanding that it's the same shit, different day. The old problems are worked out, but new ones are rearing their ugly heads. I much preferred this ending to the ending of Seinfeld. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Will you be watching Sopranos and/or Entourage?
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| They left it open so that you can fill in the blanks yourself. Or maybe they left it open in case they want to do a movie or future season. But I didn't like the ending one bit. I thought something was wrong with my DVR when it went black. Because the credits didn't roll for like a full minute. I guess they thought that was powerful, but all it really did was confuse us. |
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Will you be watching Sopranos and/or Entourage?
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I think the Sopranos ending was troubling, frustrating, unexpected, and I liked it and didnt like it for all of those reasons. Why the hell should a sociopath like Tony get a happy ending? Why the hell not? Sure he was a violent goon, brutal and murderous, malicious and cruel...but he was also a damaged soul raised by maniacs and forced into a world where he had to learn to kill or be killed...and at times he was damned sensitive to the suffering of others, showed genuine compassion and concern that reflected a conscience that was alert to right and wrong and felt responsible for the welfare of others, and would lovingly respond to that responsibility.
In a world of retributive justice, Tony was shot five or six times in front of his family that night. All of them finally paid the price for riding the mob family gravy train. In a world of distributive justice, they continue living with the constant fear of being shot, arrested, falling victim to mental illness, getting old, killing themselves, being attacked by terrorists, catching cancer, choking to death on pasta fagiole, or having their hands and head chopped off and being stuffed in a trunk of an old sedan and sunk to the bottom of the Hudson river.
I want to think the world of the Sopranos was beyond black and white or good and evil...it makes it easier to avoid making the hard choices where you don't get to simply shoot someone you disagree with...or beat him to death with a shovel, or break his face in a restaurant after he insults my family. Or maybe Tony and Family have the right idea? The world is about power: take it and hold it and protect it and be willing to crush any who threaten it...all systems of honor are valid in sofar as they assist in that process; if they impede it, fuck 'em.
On another note, I have recently finished the 3rd season of Deadwood via Netflix. Just as brilliant and provocative and well acted and scripted as Sopranos...actually, I liked it even moreso. Al Swearengen and Tony Soprano...two of the best goddamned roles ever...violent, sensitive, commanding, interiorally tortured, exteriorally at war...warriors I suppose, but secretly wishing to be everyday guys just trying to make ends meet.
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