Noam Chomsky Weblog: Turning the Tide

Dissident Heart

This blog will include brief comments on diverse topics of concern in our time. They will sometimes come from the ZNet sustainer forum system where Noam interacts through a forum of his own, sometimes from direct submissions, sometimes culled from mail and other outlets -- always from Noam Chomsky.

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Dissident Heart

This Blog developed just as many had feared- take a few moments and examine the amount of hate-spam that clogs the discussion.

It's quite telling how a person who is able to confront and expose the basic assumptions and beliefs of a Nation, and show the irrational, immoral, and dangerous threads thruout....it's frightening to see the depth of insult and vadalization people will stoop to to silence such work.

On the other hand, there is some carefully articualted discussion amid the waste, and some people very adept at challenging Chomsky's analysis.

Niall001 · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject: Drivel

It is rather unfortunate that it attracts such offal but one poster took a rather optimistic view of an otherwise depressing situation.

''Clearly the thing to do is create blogs like this to distract and occupy right-wing trolls so they don't do any actual campaigning. Seems to be working...''

badmendicant · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Drivel

Why would you wish to stop right-wingers campaigning? Don't you believe in pluralism? What did it used to be called when only one ideology was allowed to be heard? Wasn't it fascism or something?

Mr. Pessimistic · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Drivel

Facism...right. Kinda like modern Right-wingers.

Pluralism is fine, but dualism, which we are imprisoned by in our system, is just shared facism. I am disgusted at both major parties.

Mr. P.

The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.

The pain in hell has two sides. The kind you can touch with your hand; the kind you can feel in your heart...Scorsese's "Mean Streets"

I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper

Izdaari · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Drivel

Mr. P, have you ever looked into the origins of fascism? Mussolini was a socialist in his youth and a leader of the Italian socialist movement. He split with them over his growing nationalism, but that's really the only major difference he had with them. Thus I have a hard time calling fascism a right-wing phenomenon, as its roots are planted firmly in left-wing soil.

More about fascism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Edited by: Izdaari at: 6/15/05 3:58 am

badmendicant · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Drivel

Mr P, that's a fair point. You could infer from your "fascist dualism" theory that the party democratic system leads ultimately to the creation of a power elite.

If this is the case the hyping of a political schism between bible bashing rednecks and drippy anti-American leftists, could be viewed as a means of manufacturing an interest in politics and thus inflating the importance, and consolidating the power, of politicians.

Mr. Pessimistic · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Drivel

Iz:

LIKE modern right wingers...not that they started facism.

Mr. P.

The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.

The pain in hell has two sides. The kind you can touch with your hand; the kind you can feel in your heart...Scorsese's "Mean Streets"

I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper


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