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Doc Tiessen Intern
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: American beauty
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Anybody saw American beauty? I liked it very much. What do you think of that movie? Did it really reflect something deep about America?
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: American beauty
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This was a very good movie. To me is speaks to the trend in this country toward phoniness, materialism and our obsession with "beauty", but not Beauty in every aspect of life, which leads to the disfunction of the family and the subjugation of the self.
I have not seen this in a while, so I cannot recall much by way of examples, but the part with the plastic bag movie was a powerful scene. The bag was free and real. There is much to be said of the fact that a plastic bag can suffocate, yet here it is breathing the air and being uplifted by it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: Re: American beauty
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I don't know about the depth of this movie's portrayal of America, but I thought it tapped into that underlying strata of angst and depression and the desire for a quick fix that seems to exist these days.
Frankly, I thought the blowing bag scene was just a bit artsy and contrived, but that's just my old lady 'been there, seen that' perspective.
And how can we not love Keven Spacey's work.
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: Re: American beauty
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| Never been a fan of Spacey, to be honest. Not that he's a bad or even mediocre actor, but I haven't liked very many of his movies, for various reasons. And he seems, to me, to tend towards snotty, self-important characters, which limits his range a great deal. Occasionally it leads to good effect, though, as with his turns in "Seven" and "Glengarry Glen Ross". |
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: Re: American beauty
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You didn't love him in 'The Usual Suspects'? Or 'K-Pax'? Maybe that snotty, self-important thing is what I like about him. He carries it off so well. Of course, maybe he is not carrying it off at all, it really IS him. LOL
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: Re: American beauty
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I enjoyed AB, but I saw it right after a friend of mine had led me through a bunch of Billy Wilder films, and AB seemed to be rather derivative -- especially in the "this is the year I died" opening. Watch Sunset Boulevard for the best rendition of that style of beginning.
And about Spacey -- I think he does creepy very well, but he does have his personality that seems to bleed into many of his leading man characters. I think he's better in the background.
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: American beauty
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You didn't love him in 'The Usual Suspects'? Or 'K-Pax'?
I knew the twist going into "The Usual Suspects", so that movie really fell flat for me. Spacey's acting was fine, I suppose, but I felt that there were times when he overdid the schtick. Only saw bits and pieces of "K-Pax". I'll watch just about anything Jeff Bridges is in, but that one just looked a little too fey for my taste. |
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