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 Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:51 am Post subject: Fibonacci and the Golden Ratio
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Has anyone heard of these? Looked into them? There was an article in Discovery a while back about this...I believe that Fibonacci or the Golden Rule were part of the DaVinci Code book.
Fascinating!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Fibonacci and the Golden Ratio
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Looks like bullshit to me. Then again...I stopped reading after only a few minutes. Do you have any comments or opinions?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Fibonacci and the Golden Ratio
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Well...the numbers and formulas are very real. Whether or not they possess magic: no! But any mathematical complexities are great! Numbers can be so amazing at times!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Fibonacci and the Golden Ratio
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Phi is a slippery, an irrational, and a transcendental number!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Fibonacci and the Golden Ratio
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I'm allergic to numbers.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:35 am Post subject: Numbers
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There can be some magic behind numbers...
and maths and numerology can be fascinating... what I do not like is the absolute determinism in which the current paradigma of mathematics is based...
Is the number Pi such a transcendental number?
Is the ratio between the diameter and the perimeter of a circle an universal constant valid everywhere in the cosmos?
Is Pi a single number, or a range of numbers?
If its a single number, how many digits does the Pi number have?
Does mathematics has anything to do with the reality that surrounds us?
Is mathematics more related to science or to philosophy?
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Numbers
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Yeah, Pi's transcendental.
But what is mathematics? It's certainly a reality. Take Pi for instance. That's a fixed relationship (whatever the Bible tells you about it being 3  ). So, is maths physics?
Certainly, when you get into complex numbers, nobody could really conceive of i (square root of minus one) as a reality. But it certainly exists as a valid (and very useful) concept for problemsolving, particularly in engineering..
So - is maths science or philosophy? Neother and both.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Numbers
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| The fibonacci sequence is easily seen in nature do to how living organisms replicate. The sequence is very simple, so it's easy to find replication patterns in nature that match it. Much of nature evolves to simple, redundant patterns and structures. If something is not so simple, it is most likely redundant. If it is neither, the complexity is most likely necessary for survival. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Numbers
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ADO:
I do not think that Pi is trascendental. It is just an arbitrary number valid for the euclidic geometry.
our reality is only nearly euclidic.
In theory maths has absolutely nothing to do with reality. In Practise it is astonishing, that it has indeed very useful applications for our world.
Maths is not a natural science. Math is at most a social science. Maybe it is close to philosophy. Math does not deal with reality, but with Idealism.
Somewhere I heard... math is the art of dealing with the infinitum...
so a kind of art?
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