So am I pre-programmed if I do not have any evil options in front of me? There are many choices I make every day where all the options are good, and I choose between them. How is this any different? Am I not free unless evil is an option? Then I'm not free during most of every day.Flann5 wrote:You are saying here that God should create pre-programmed beings only capable of making good choices. Saying that because God is omniscient and omnipotent he should be able to make robots who can make real choices is the same as saying he can make a square circle. It's not a matter of omniscience or omnipotence.
The good choice is not really good without the bad choice. It's just programming.
But as I said in my first post in this thread, I chose only the options in Chris' poll where free will wasn't an issue. Natural disasters and diseases that cause suffering. If the world was created by a being, then that being is responsible for the things that happen. If the things that happen cause suffering and evil, then the being cannot have the 3 O's.
Your reference to the definitions of the concepts is spot on. You can't have a square circle, because that's inherently contradictory. You can't have an omnibenevolent, omniscient, omnipotent being be the creator of this universe, because that is also inherently contradictory. You cannot hold those definitions of god to be true at the same time evil exists. It's inherently contradictory, and there is absolutely no appeal that changes this(please look at the definitions of the words). We can mince this up and rehash it a hundred thousand times using different phrasing, but it's not going to change. I guess I keep rehashing it because I have a slight hope you'll see how impossible your position is. Should I have hope?