The opposite idea—that there was no historical Jesus at all and that "Jesus Christ" developed out of some purely mythic ideas about a non-historical, non-existent figure—has had a checkered history over the last 200 years, but has usually been a marginal idea at best. Its heyday was in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, when it seemed to fit with some early anthropological ideas about religions evolving along parallel patterns and being based on shared archetypes, as characterized by Sir James Frazer's influential comparative religion study The Golden Bough (1890). But it fell out of favor as the twentieth century progressed and was barely held by any scholars at all by the 1960s.
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Re: Evidence for Jesus - the End of the Mythical of Jesus and more
nothing checkered about it, it goes back a lot further than 200 years as well.that there was no historical Jesus at all and that "Jesus Christ" developed out of some purely mythic ideas about a non-historical, non-existent figure—has had a checkered history over the last 200 years,
but has usually been a marginal idea at best.
yes always best to marginalise your enemy, especially if it is the truth.
no, it's heyday is about to really arrive.Its heyday was in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century,
religions evolving along parallel patterns and being based on shared archetypes
it was ever thus
it's getting stronger by the day, and i think inevitably it will be finally understood that the virgin born son of god walking on water and rising out from the midst of the dead IS MYTHOLOGYBut it fell out of favor as the twentieth century progressed and was barely held by any scholars at all by the 1960s.
what a sad situation when what should be obvious is so hard to see, shortsighted, turning a blind eye, squinting to keep the light of truth out.
too busy to read? another agenda all together?
whatever,
virgin born son of god walking on water and rising out from the midst of the dead IS MYTHOLOGY
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Re: Evidence for Jesus - the End of the Mythical of Jesus and more
DB Roy wrote:It should be blatantly, painfully obvious that the last thing Christians are interested in is common sense.
What us your support for this?
G.K. Chesterton, perhaps the greatest apologist if the 20th and possibly the 21st century was known as "THE APOSTLE OF COMMON SENSE."
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The same GKC that had several errors in as many paragraphs is known as the apostle of common sense? Somehow, this isn't surprising to me.
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Anyone who believes in a man-god who came to earth through the body of a virgin so that he could be killed as a sacrifice to himself in order to forgive and save all humankind does not subscribe to common sense.
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What errors?
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Re: Evidence for Jesus - the End of the Mythical of Jesus and more
DB Roy, you misstated the doctrine of salvation.
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Re: Evidence for Jesus - the End of the Mythical of Jesus and more
in a thread we read some GKC you posted and it was soon discovered that GKC was a bit of a colourful old windbag apologist rather than an airtight reasoner.Stahrwe wrote:What errors?
hey i enjoy the GKC type of writing but sufficient support for orthodoxy it is not, how could it be, orthodoxy is pitiful being a bunch of literalised mythological motifs and historicised fictions, basically a mind control cult used by the powerful elites to fleece the sheep.
gotta keep 'em down, let's tell 'em they're all sinners and God had to have Jesus flogged and crucified because they are such sinners, let's use their guilt against them, use their fear against them, let's get some manacles on those minds
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c'mon then Stahrwe, give us the real deal, what is the properly stated doctrine of salvation....DB Roy, you misstated the doctrine of salvation.
we've probably never heard it before
in the many threads we've had here i've not seen anything from Stahrwe, ant, Flann etc etc that even comes close to anything but a weak and insipid defense of an indefensible idiocy, and a stalwart, no, obstinate refusal to play ball.
though i hasten to add i am quite fond of the aforementioned Stahrwe, ant and Flann.
Stahrwe with his "Joseph Campbell is a hack"
ant with his "yorky" is a "simpleton troll"
and Flann with his heartfelt devotion to the saviour of mankind...
maybe one day we can all sit down and have a heineken together, or toasted marshmallows
