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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:53 am Post subject: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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A relative of mine forwarded an article to me which has left me wondering: Where is the mass exodus of refugees After all, so many people said they were going to leave the US if Bush was reelected, and this piece indicates that many people at least took the preliminary step of looking into leaving for Canada, so why haven't they left? If they have, why hasn't there been newscoverage of it? After all, this article appears to be somewhat old. Most likely from November. I tried to find out more about it, but all I could find was a reference to it in a Seattle Times piece.
seattletimes.nwsource.com...ada18.html
"Calgary Sun" Article
Stay home, you pathetic whining maggots By Ian Robinson-Calgary Sun
In the wake of the U.S. presidential election- in which I cheerfully took a Sun assistant city editor, who figured Senator John Kerry couldn't lose, for $10 (a quick pause to gloat here) Americans disenchanted with President George W. Bush's re-election romp back into the White House, continue to deluge the Canadian immigration website.
How anybody can be unhappy with the president's re-election is beyond me.
Bush has my admiration in no small part because he manages to simultaneously annoy France and Germany, not to mention those renowned deep, geopolitical thinkers, the Dixie Chicks, Bruce Springsteen, P-Diddy or whatever he's calling himself now, Gwynneth Paltrow and Ben Affleck.
(Interesting note about France: America invades Iraq without UN approval and America is portrayed as a barbarian striding across the world stage. Recently, France essentially invaded the Ivory Coast to protect its interests there .. without asking the UN squat. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.)
Plus, let's face it: France deserves to be annoyed by as many people as possible, as often as possible, if only for encouraging Jerry Lewis by telling him that he was a genius.
Not to mention for exporting snotty wine culture across the Atlantic so that otherwise reasonable North Americans have turned into cork-sniffing oenephiles-although the word sounds like an exotic perversion, it just means wine-nerd-who can actually say with a straight face: "This is a full-bodied Cabernet, rich with a full body tasting of plum, blackberry and leather cooked on an oak plank."
Anyway, the day after the U.S. election, 115,628 Americans checked out the site and those numbers haven't fallen off very much.
Before the election, some U.S. celebrities and nume! rous other Democrats vowed that they'd move to Canada if Bush were re-elected.
I hope I'm not alone in gently suggesting to those considering coming to Canada: Stay home, you pathetic whining maggots.
Particularly celebrities. Canada has suffered enough without having to put up with any of the Baldwin brothers or-heaven forfend! -- Barbra Streisand.
And frankly, I don't know if we can afford to feed Michael Moore.
Bad enough that Canada became a haven for the gutless wonders of the 1960s who fled the Vietnam draft. I sometimes think that the draft dodgers welcomed by the Trudeau government were a political virus that invaded our body politic, and we still suffer the lingering effects of that illness.
Our nation's preposterous pacifism, belief in nonsense such as "soft power" and fidelity to a morally bankrupt United Nations overrun with tin-pot dictators and other left-wing idiocies, may well be traceable back to the influx of thousands of the testosterone-challenged whose allegiance to country was superceded by their allegiance to smoking dope while trying to figure out the inner meaning of Beatles songs.
We have immigrants coming to this country who have been hunted from the air by murderous Islamofascists in Sudan.
Some new Canadians survived the atrocities in Rwanda or old Europe's final convulsions of genocide in the former Yugoslavia.
We have physicians from some parts of the world who are willing to throw away their prestige and power in their homelands for the privilege of driving a cab in Moose Jaw.
As a nation, we ought to welcome our share of people fleeing genuine oppression, and those willing to gamble everything to secure a safe and decent future for their families.
But welcome a bunch of spoiled brats willing to abandon their very nation because they don't like the man elected to be their leader for the next four years?
Geez, in my entire lifetime, there was maybe one prime minister I'd trust to run a street-corner hot dog stand-the rest of them weren't fit for much more than compost-but it never occurred to me to emigrate.
If we close our borders to anybody, it should be these fools. They'll be easy to screen out. They'll be! the ones who are whining. …[T]o ignore the classics is ultimately to weaken the very foundations of our society. - James Atlas, Book Wars |
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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1. People who say they're leaving the US quickly realize that anywhere else they go (unless they can afford their own island nation and infrastructure) sucks too and usually as bad or worse than the US.
2. Not everyone who hates Bush is a whiner. It's extremely insulting to say such a thing. Honest, rational dissent is essential to our democracy.
3. This is just another example of gloating emptyheaded red-staters and I'm pretty sick of it. There is no new mandate and anyone elected still needs to realize that they are still a representative of ALL American citizens. Not just the ones that voted for them.
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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It is just a thing to say...a way to relieve some of the PTSD that we are going through!
Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.
I came to get down, I came to get down. So get out ya seat and jump around - House of Pain
HEY! Is that a ball in your court? - Mr. P
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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Well, to me, Hockey is the ONLY sport to be a fan of! So I am all set! Although Canada is loosing all their teams to the US.
My wife is from Canada, so we have places up there to consider should it come to that.
Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.
I came to get down, I came to get down. So get out ya seat and jump around - House of Pain
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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I think that their are a lot of things that mean that people want to leave, but, there are also people trying like crazy to get here. I think the latter, rather than the former are larger in number.
I may not be wanting to leave America because of another four years of GWB, but I think I should be worried about who will be president after Bush. I know that I for one, would certainly considering a four to eight year leave of absence from America in the event of certain people being elected. …[T]o ignore the classics is ultimately to weaken the very foundations of our society. - James Atlas, Book Wars |
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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Well I am really worried, but picking up and leaving is not the way this country works!
I am very fearful of the Bush clique. The man is a moron and he is elected President! But it is not he that is really in control now is it. It is all about the behind the scenes that worries me.
Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P.
I came to get down, I came to get down. So get out ya seat and jump around - House of Pain
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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The first sets of them are here.
Getting permission to immigrate isn't immediate, PC. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Where is the mass exodus of refugees?
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Zach, all I got from that link was:
Sorry, we can't find the page you requested.
Canada is notorious for its laws concerning refugees. Many people just show up and say I'm a political refugee and are given a visa, then just disappear into Canadian society. …[T]o ignore the classics is ultimately to weaken the very foundations of our society. - James Atlas, Book Wars |
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