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A Poem on the Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy by Nikki Giovanni
Trees are never felled … in summer … Not when the fruit … is yet to be borne … Never before the promise … is fulfilled … Not when their cooling shade … has yet to comfort …
Yet there are those … unheeding of nature … indifferent to ecology … ignorant of need … who … with ax and sharpened saw … would … in boots … step forth damaging …
Not the tree … for it falls … But those who would … in summer’s heat … or winter’s cold … contemplate … the beauty …
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Pilgrim's Progress
At the start, it goes like this-- One's childhood has a tremendous shape, and moves like a wild animal Through the deadfall and understory. It's endlessly beautiful, elusive and on to something. It hides out but never disappears.
Later, the sacred places Delphi and Italy on us, Flicking and flashing through the forest, half seen, half remembered. And with them the woods itself, Each tree, each interlude of marsh grass and beaver shade Something to tug the sleeve with.
In the end, of course, one's a small dog At night on the front porch, barking into the darkness At what he can't see, but smells, somehow, and is suspicious of. Barking, poor thing, and barking, With no one at home to call him in, with no one to turn the light on.
Charles Wright, Scar Tissue from the 2007 Griffin Poetry Prize Anthology
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I like the Charles Wright poem. Serendipity that it ends with the dog - I was just going to post a poem I heard today called "Dog". Now I have to go find it.
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I like the Charles Wright poem. Serendipity that it ends with the dog - I was just going to post a poem I heard today called "Dog". Now I have to go find it.
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Dogs
by Aaron Kramer
Looking foolish next to the tree in a one o'clock rain: umbrella aloft, the leash in my other hand— I wanted my late-coming neighbor to understand that dogs are worth the expense, inconvenience, and pain;
their tails are truthful, no coiled rebellion beneath a loving look; they are quick to kiss you, and quick to fetch for you, and —should you raise a stick threateningly—they are quick to show their teeth;
and better still (but this I never revealed), when you bring downfall home, the death of a hope, their nonchalant manner does more for you than a drink; and best of all, when triumph's to be unsealed, such lack of respect they show for the envelope, —your fingers halt, the brain cools, and you think.
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I like the Charles Wright poem. Serendipity that it ends with the dog - I was just going to post a poem I heard today called "Dog". Now I have to go find it.
That is kind of coincidental! Thanks for the 'Dog' poem, its great. I thought the Wright poem was quite clever in its transition to the dog (is that like 'going to the dogs'?!) ... its an interesting thought ... we might end as a small dog stuck on the porch barking into the darkness at the unknown and unseen. Almost funny in a dark way, definitely ironic and kind of sad at the same time ... much like life is sometimes.
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This poem reminds me of some of Robert Frost's poetry.
Men Untrained to Comfort by Wendell Berry
Jason Needly found his father, old Ab, at work at the age of eighty in the topmost tier of the barn. "Come down!" Jason called. "You got no business up there at your age." And his father descended, not by a ladder, there being none, but by inserting his fingers into the cracks between the boards and climbing down the wall.
And when he was young and some account and strong and knew nothing of weariness, old man Milt Wright, back in the days they called him "Steady," carried the rastus plow on his shoulder up the high hill to his tobacco patch, so when they got there his mule would be fresh, unsweated, and ready to go.
Early Rowanberry, for another, bought a steel-beam breaking plow at the store in Port William and shouldered it before the hardly-believing watchers, and carried it the mile and a half home, down through the woods along Sand Ripple.
"But the tiredest my daddy ever got," his son, Art, told me one day "was when he carried fifty rabbits and a big possum in a sack on his back up onto the point yonder and out the ridge to town to sell them at the store."
"But why," I asked, "didn't he hitch a team to the wagon and haul them up there by the road?"
"Well," Art said, "we didn't have but two horses in them days, and we spared them every way we could. A many a time I've seen my daddy or grandpa jump off the wagon or sled and take the end of a singletree beside a horse."
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He had me at the title. Wendell Berry, like Robert Frost, never tries to obscure a subject. I think readers who don't generally like modern poetry might like him, because he doesn't care at all to be fashionable, he's direct and concrete. He must have a collected poems, and it would be well worth reading.
Checked on Amazon. He has Collected Poems, but the pub. date is 1987! A number of books of poems after that, but no updated collected poems, which is odd.
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He had me at the title. Wendell Berry, like Robert Frost, never tries to obscure a subject. I think readers who don't generally like modern poetry might like him, because he doesn't care at all to be fashionable, he's direct and concrete. He must have a collected poems, and it would be well worth reading.
Checked on Amazon. He has Collected Poems, but the pub. date is 1987! A number of books of poems after that, but no updated collected poems, which is odd.
Thanks! I have read a bit of Berry's poetry. I definately think it is worth looking into a collection.
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Deep Midwinter
Snow had fallen, snow on snow snow on snow -- Christina Rosetti
Once upon a time the sky's eternal silence broke up into bits, fresh new-angled nothings sowing the wind with pique. Not wing, though it flies, nor spirit, though it isn't and it is, nor song, though it could be said to sing inaudibly, and though it falls it's liable to forget and float or sift, indulged by gravity, as though that hard-and-fast rule had gone soft and slow. Finally, it settles in the earth, eternal silence once again, but tangible, depthed, an unbreathed breath. Long ago - it is always long ago - before there were beds, or blankets, or animals to wish they had them, snow: snow on snow on snow.
Don McKay from The 2007 Griffin Poetry Prize Anthology
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I am sorry that this is so bleak - but it is also so beautiful:-
In Life after Death, Ted Hughes recalls in painful and moving detail how he and the children coped with the immediate aftermath of the suicide of Silvia Plath, in a flat in Primrose Hill, near London Zoo, in the frozen weeks of one of the coldest winters of the century. Only to find a strange sort of solace:
Dropped from life, We three made a deep silence In our separate cots.
We were comforted by wolves. Under that February moon and the moon of March The Zoo had come close. And in spite of the city Wolves consoled us. Two or three times each night For minutes on end They sang. They had found where we lay....
They wound us and enmeshed us In their wailing for you, their mourning for us, They wove us into their voices. We lay in your death, In the fallen snow, under falling snow.
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.....Floor
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Penny: Nice poem. I didn't find it bleak but rather a sensitive way to deal with a terrible event and very difficult feelings and to find consolation. And I think it is the job of poetry to help us deal with difficult times and emotions. I liked the imagery of the wolves howling in London, so unexpected. I'm only slightly familiar with London so I googled Primrose Hill and the Zoo and they are close enough that it's quite likely they could hear wolves howling if the city was fairly quiet. When you look at the overall view of London with the Zoo fairly close to the center, it creates such an interesting image of 'wild animals' in the midst of millions of people and all the related urban development.
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The wolf imagery is really interesting, consoling but at the same time, vaguely threatening. There is so much mythology and many stories about wolves, and expressions that capture our dread of wolves, "wolf at the door" or "like a pack of wolves". I think Hughes does touch on this aspect of our feelings toward wolves in the line "They had found where we lay.... " (the '....' is a nice touch), but then goes on in the last verse to focus on the consolation element which is the theme. I think he creates a tension in the poem through these contrasting feelings about wolves .. beauty and consolation of song and vague threat. It is a beautiful poem but also quite clever.
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I like the way that the early poems of poets who were later judged as great, give glimpses into that development even though the poems themselves clearly lack mastery. "In Drear-Nighted December" is one that prefigures themes Keats was to make distinctively his own. He contrasts the simple, memory-free, painless being of objects in nature with the complicated, sometimes cursed, being of conscious humans. Unlike trees and brooks, we can't help but sense the pain of loss from our former happy states ("The feel of not to feel it"). This poem is also topical just now for my latitude. I prefer a more thorough winter than we get in the north part of Virginia, but it'll do.
This work was written in December 1817 and first published in the Literary Gazette in 1829.
In drear-nighted December, Too happy, happy tree, Thy branches ne'er remember Their green felicity: The north cannot undo them With a sleety whistle through them; Nor frozen thawings glue them From budding at the prime.
In drear-nighted December, Too happy, happy brook, Thy bubblings ne'er remember Apollo's summer look; But with a sweet forgetting, They stay their crystal fretting, Never, never petting About the frozen time.
Ah! would 'twere so with many A gentle girl and boy! But were there ever any Writhed not at passed joy? The feel of not to feel it, When there is none to heal it Nor numbed sense to steel it, Was never said in rhyme.
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The Layers
BY STANLEY KUNITZ
I have walked through many lives, some of them my own, and I am not who I was, though some principle of being abides, from which I struggle not to stray. When I look behind, as I am compelled to look before I can gather strength to proceed on my journey, I see the milestones dwindling toward the horizon and the slow fires trailing from the abandoned camp-sites, over which scavenger angels wheel on heavy wings. Oh, I have made myself a tribe out of my true affections, and my tribe is scattered! How shall the heart be reconciled to its feast of losses? In a rising wind the manic dust of my friends, those who fell along the way, bitterly stings my face, Yet I turn, I turn, exulting somewhat, with my will intact to go wherever I need to go, and every stone on the road precious to me. In my darkest night, when the moon was covered and I roamed through wreckage, a nimbus-clouded voice directed me: “Live in the layers, not on the litter.” Though I lack the art to decipher it, no doubt the next chapter in my book of transformations is already written. I am not done with my changes.
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