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etudiant · Fri May 21, 2010 2:23 pm

She came as close as one could reasonably expect to getting a politician in a headlock. And it wasn't pretty.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/us/po ... f=politics

bleachededen · Fri May 21, 2010 2:34 pm

Chris OConnor · Sat May 22, 2010 1:36 am

Rand Paul is making the classic mistake of approaching complex issues as if they are black and white. Conservatives tend to do this more than liberals. Rand is trying to be a true blue Libertarian, but such a position is just nuts. And I think he probably knows it and now regrets the things he's said. But perhaps not.

JulianTheApostate · Sat May 22, 2010 4:15 pm

Paul is saying what he honestly believes, but he doesn't recognize how unpopular libertarian and Tea Party beliefs are among the general population. While the Tea Party movement can dominate many Republican primaries, the selected candidates will have a hard time being elected to office, even in Republican states like Kentucky.

The Tea Party movement is still very scary, as this article explains.
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/tea ... WRmOGUyZDU

The silver lining is that far-right candidates will repel voters, reducing Democratic losses despite the sucky economy and right-wing anger towards Obama.

wilde · Sat May 22, 2010 6:45 pm

He says he's supporting 'freedom of speech.' Okay, letting racists discuss their views is not the same as not letting a black person go into a certain restaurant.

bleachededen · Sun May 23, 2010 4:44 am

Does anyone else find it sad that this mentality still exists, even in small numbers?

So much for progress. Next they'll be telling me I can't vote because I have ovaries instead of testicles.

Does it still count if you have your ovaries removed?

Maybe some black folk can bleach their skin like Michael Jackson. Or wear Ronald Reagan masks. People still like Reagan, right? :mrgreen:

wilde · Sun May 23, 2010 4:54 pm

Those masks scare the crap out of me. :lol:

(Well, most masks in general freak me out)

It is pretty sad though, I agree. They're holding society back, I think.

etudiant · Sun May 23, 2010 7:44 pm

To be fair to Rand Paul, it is possible that his statements do not reflect any racist sentiments, but are truly an attempt to explain his libertarian views. But even this is still shocking.

His ideas about unfettered business practices, with little to no government oversight, are at best an eccentricity based on a narrow and surprisingly uninformed knowledge of history, or at worst a bias fueled by a neurotic interpretation of society, bolstered, perhaps, by hopes of financial gain by those he is championing.

Either way it is shocking that someone who aspires to an extremely influential position in society can do so while displaying so little in the way of intellectual substance. And more importantly, it is disturbing that he is able to marshal the support that he does. One buffoon is merely the court jester; a buffoon that has the support of 30% or more of the electorate is a worry. And if news reports and polls are to be believed, that’s about were he is, 30% or a little better, if we look at proclaimed support of the Tea Party. And we have the precedent of George Bush receiving about 50% of the vote despite his many grammar and content free proclamations during his campaigns

It’s a very curious business when so many reject knowledge and learning, and seek the safer but more mundane shelter of well-worn clichés and dogma. Maybe it’s stress. In the 1930’s, movies that emphasized fluffy escapism were popular; not surprising perhaps considering the awful times people were living in. But what is the big stress today? I don’t know. Maybe readers here have some ideas.

bleachededen · Sun May 23, 2010 11:30 pm


	etudiant wrote: But what is the big stress today?

Overstimulation.

Mar · Mon May 24, 2010 9:13 am


	bleachededen wrote: Does anyone else find it sad that this mentality still exists, even in small numbers? So much for progress. Next they'll be telling me I can't vote because I have ovaries instead of testicles. Does it still count if you have your ovaries removed? Maybe some black folk can bleach their skin like Michael Jackson. Or wear Ronald Reagan masks. People still like Reagan, right?

"bleach their skin like Michael Jackson" ?

hum, did you really mean to say that? Like, theres a special kind of bleach for skin?

wilde · Mon May 24, 2010 12:42 pm

Well, MJ had a skin condition/disease thing...

bleachededen · Mon May 24, 2010 2:04 pm


	Mar wrote: "bleach their skin like Michael Jackson" ? hum, did you really mean to say that? Like, theres a special kind of bleach for skin?

Yes, I really meant to say that. In the 90s there was a joke that Michael Jackson had bleached his skin in order to "become white." Yes, it was known that he had a rare skin disease where he ended up losing most of his melanin, the secretion that adds pigment to the skin, but it was funnier to joke that he had "become white" intentionally. It was a joke. Funny. I guess you had to be there.

Mar · Tue May 25, 2010 3:29 am

bleachededen wrote:


	Mar wrote: "bleach their skin like Michael Jackson" ? hum, did you really mean to say that? Like, theres a special kind of bleach for skin?

Yes, I really meant to say that. In the 90s there was a joke that Michael Jackson had bleached his skin in order to "become white." Yes, it was known that he had a rare skin disease where he ended up losing most of his melanin, the secretion that adds pigment to the skin, but it was funnier to joke that he had "become white" intentionally. It was a joke. Funny. I guess you had to be there.

Yes, I was alive during the 90's so I heard that joke. I just don't find it funny. Being there or not

But I actually thought people didn't use it anymore.
Anyways...

bleachededen · Tue May 25, 2010 3:37 am


	Mar wrote: But I actually thought people didn't use it anymore.

What can I say? I'm an odd bird.

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