Moron Alert: California Man Sees Virgin Mary In Wound

Chris OConnor

California Man Believes He Sees Virgin Mary In Wound

http://www.wlbz2.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=86461

MONTEREY, CA (NBC) -- A California man says he can see the image of the Virgin Mary in his leg after a motorcycle accident.

See, God does work in mysterious ways.

Marc Lipton said he was riding his motorcycle when he lost control and slid about 50 feet along the road.

Lipton said he wasn't wearing leather chaps at the time because he was close to home.

Ahhh, that makes sense. The softness of the pavement is related to the proximity of ones home. Brilliant.

Lipton said he believes the Virgin Mary protected him from further injury when the motorcycle slid out from underneath him.

The Roman Catholic Church has very strict guidelines regarding what is deemed an official sighting of the Virgin Mary.

There has been no word on if the Diocese of Monterey will investigate Lipton's leg as a legitimate apparition of the Virgin Mary.

Constance963

Penelope · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject:

Chris O'Connor - Listen to me....because I am nobody.....

It must make you so mad....that people who believe that there is more to life than meets the eye....see significance in apparitions....of 'the virgin' in their leg wounds.....

After Princess Diana died....people thought that they saw her image in the clouds........that is their emotional reaction.....

But please.....believe that some of us have a modicum of intelligence.....

I believe that there is much, much, much more to life than meets the eye...and I get even madder than you........honest I do!!!!!

Thomas Hood · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject:

The main impediment to human welfare in my opinion is neither pareidolia nor apophenia but dis-pareidolia and dis-apophenia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Wegener

"By the 1930s, Wegener's geological work was almost universally dismissed by the scientific community and remained obscure for some thirty years."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

"Semmelweis was outraged by the indifference of the medical profession and began writing open and increasingly angry letters to prominent European obstetricians, at times denouncing them as irresponsible murderers. His contemporaries, including his wife, believed he was losing his mind and he was in 1865 committed to an asylum (mental institution). Semmelweis died there only 14 days later, possibly after being severely beaten by guards."

Tom

Penelope · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:17 am Post subject:

Thomas Hood: - I don't think I have ever spoken to you before....that is, I don't think I have responded to any of your posts....but I do read them.

I do find your language 'esoteric'...more even than my most admired, Robert Tulip. Still, I do realise that we need to have words and terms to signify complicated 'mind sets'......it is just that if we are not all used to the same terms.....we have a language barrier.....and we all speak 'English'....

Oh, isn't it difficult?

pareidolia - can you clarify what this means please?

apophenia - and this word, I have never heard......but I do know that they both appear to have Greek roots......(just so that you know I am not completely stupid).

I am really, truely interested in what you are saying......but I am losing something in the translation, I think.

Chris OConnor · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:15 am Post subject:

Penelope

Penelope · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:05 am Post subject:

Chris.....to me it is irrational....not to notice that in this life.....there are some things which we cannot explain scientifically.

And...just as you are appalled that people who are delusional....are allowed a vote......I get very scared that people.....with no sense of the infinite...no sense of an eternal soul.... in all of us.....often, rise to positions of great power.

We cannot prove that we have a 'soul', Chris....but we can feel it.

How can I provide a 'logical' argument when all I have is an emotion to go on......but I do insist....that my emotion is just as tangible (OK, not logical) as your intellect.

I do think that we need to have a foot in both worlds if we are to get anywhere. Because, I agree, all would be chaos and confusion if we gave too much emphasis to our 'spiritual' natures. But it would be a pretty dead and meaningless world if all we knew and felt could be scientifically explained and diagnosed. Hitler would have been right for a start.....let's create a super-race....let's exterminate all those who do not meet our criteria.....as strong, intelligent superbeings....

And....if we did that.....what would we become?......Strong...intelligent and soul-less Zombies.

It is a matter of balance......

Thomas Hood · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:48 am Post subject:

Chris OConnor · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:52 am Post subject:

Penelope · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:52 am Post subject:

Chris, you took the trouble to answer my initial post...point-by-point and I have been trying to think of a way to return the compliment.

This is not about point scoring.....it is about trying to understand something about one another.....and I believe in morphic resonance...so if we can get to grips on BT with what is going on.....maybe it will echo on through others who are thinking about 'What the hell is wrong with us'.

OK - so here goes. I don't know if you will read it....but it will do me some good to try to defend my faith.

Do you know the old film of 'Hans Christian Andersen' with Danny Kay?

In that film there is a song which goes:-

Inch Worm, Inch Worm, Measuring the Marigolds
Seems to me you might stop and see how beautiful they are.....

Now, I do realise that we can't all sit back admiring the beauty of the Marigolds in open mouthed wonder.....

No, we must measure them and weigh them and try to understand what makes them be......

The Marigolds (of course) here are a metaphore for the World.

I, being a person who is too much inclined to step back in amazement and just enjoy them, have also looked (to the best of my ability) at the mathematics. The mathematics are also very beautiful.

What is it in us Chris, that can do all the weighing and measuring and rationalising.....but then just step back in breathless amazement at the beauty of it all. What is it in us that perceives the beauty?

That is what I call 'the soul'. That is why I say.....you can only feel it.

We must measure and weigh and explore and try to understand what makes the world tic....but there is something else in us...that is not about analysis.......it is about soul.

And I am so anxious to preserve that sense of wonder......because I believe we need that....as much as we need a sense of exploration......

That is why I say we need 'balance'. And I do believe that the very erudite Robert Tulip and Thomas Hood....whom we are privilidged to encounter on this website.....are scientists....with big explorative brains....but I do believe they have a sense of wonder too.....

Basically.....what is it in us....that appreciates the beauty, the humour, the absurd?.....because computers, machines, sure don't feel the way we do.

Penelope · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject:

Chris said:-

jaywalker · Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: Atheism & Freethought Explored

Penelope, I agree with all that,but don't smell the Marigolds. Here they are called 'Stinkertjes'.


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