Moron Alert: California Man Sees Virgin Mary In Wound

Chris OConnor · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject:

Thomas, thats for the link. I've always found Ouji boards intriguing, but have long understood how they work. It is still fascinating that the average person sitting in front of one thinks something magical is happening. An interesting experiment with Ouji boards is to blind fold the users, flip the board 180 degrees, and then watch the spirits somehow not know the board was flipped. The users will move their hands to the same letter places as if the board were in the standard position. The end result is nothing was spelled correctly.

Did that make sense? I am typing fast!

With that said I am not sure how you are relating Penelope's statement about spiritual waves to this effect. Are you saying that people that experience spiritual waves are really experiencing the power of the human brain to create imaginary things?

Thomas Hood · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject:

Penelope · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:51 am Post subject:

Dear Chris and Tom - and you are dear to me, I am not just being formal.

I think it was very naughty of you Chris to talk to that 'very young' person on another thread about 'God having a penis and etc....' because you know that is not what we mean. You are deliberately misconstruing and making us look ridiculous......We don't do that to you. That is not about respect!!!!

Chris OConnor · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:19 am Post subject:

Penelope, there is nothing wrong with talking to young people about whether or not their God has a penis. It is a damn good question and one meant to get them thinking. Of course I could have asked about their spleen or toenails, but that person mentioned that the God they believe in is between a male and a female. So I naturally am curious whether they see their God as having male or female sex organs.

You may think of this as disrespectful or silly, but you ought to ask yourself the same questions. If you think of God as a male do you think he has all the characteristics of a male? Does he have a penis? If so what is it used for? What use is a penis for a God?

There is too much "sacred" stuff with regards to gods and faith. Start asking those silly questions and you will see just how silly the god myth is. A large percentage of people believe humans were created in God's image. If this is the case we can assume that God has sex organs and burps and gets acne and sometimes stubs his toes.

Where does God sleep? In a bed? Where does he buy his sheets? Is there gravity in heaven to keep him in bed? If so where is heaven located and why is there a gravitational force pulling God down? Silly questions? No, actually they are VERY good questions. They show just how ridiculous people can be with their beliefs.

Is God a spirit with no tangible body? If so how does he cause things to happen physically? Does he have a small patch of skin on his otherwise intangible body that he uses to push footballs over the goal posts and to save drowning children? Again, crazy disrespectful questions? No, these are the types of questions intelligent people should have been asking themselves around 5 years old. Adults that find these questions to be strange are the strange ones to me.

When something doesn't mesh with the reality in which you live you ought to question it deeply. Extraordinary claims should require extraordinary evidence. So there is an afterworld? Ok, where is it? On a planet? Which one? How do you know? Is it floating up in the sky? Where precisely? Have our jets or spacecraft ever accidently pierced through Main St. Heaven (TM)? Weird questions? Not even a little bit. These are excellent questions and if you can't answer them then you ought to think really hard about why not. Why do you believe in an afterworld or afterlife yet you cannot describe, define or locate it in any way?

So heaven is in another dimension? Ok, fine. How do you know? Or are you simply trying to avoid having to explain yourself by saying, "Heaven exists beyond our senses." Oh really? Then how in the hell do you know it exists? You don't "sense" it, but you "know" it exists? Or is it that you just "believe" it exists? Why?

The reality is theists believe in their myths because they were brainwashed into believing when their brains were young, sponge-like and completely naive and impressionable. Those adults that converted later in life never grew up and still have young, sponge-like and completely naive and impressionable brains.

Penelope · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject:

Chris:

Penelope · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject:

PS - I have also attempted to read Einstein's Theory of Relativity -

E=MC squared. Seems to prove that time and space do not exist as we understand them.

ie You could set out in a spaceship, travelling at the speed of light and look back and watch yourself setting off on your journey!!!

Now, scientists are proving that Einstein was wrong.....but that does not mean that we should not have the greatest respect for what he discovered.

I think it should be the same in the realms of spiritual teachings....but it patently isn't....is it?

Penelope · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject:

PS - I have also attempted to read Einstein's Theory of Relativity -

E=MC squared. Seems to prove that time and space do not exist as we understand them.

ie You could set out in a spaceship, travelling at the speed of light and look back and watch yourself setting off on your journey!!!

Now, scientists are proving that Einstein was wrong.....but that does not mean that we should not have the greatest respect for what he discovered.

I think it should be the same in the realms of spiritual teachings....but it patently isn't....is it?

And I would never say Einstein was delusional!!!

Chris OConnor · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject:

I'm sorry I can't continue this discussion.

Constance963 · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:30 am Post subject:

Interbane · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject:

Thomas: "Chris, "spiritual waves" and the earlier "vibrations" are popular terms for unconscious psychological effects:"

Please don't use ideomotor concepts in any way to support spirituality. That's blatantly misleading and false. Every time I hear of spiritual waves, I think of my friend complaining to me while we were playing Guitar Hero. He wanted to be on the side that his musical notes were, because my "eye waves" were interfering with his... LOL!

Just because we can conceive of something doesn't mean a damn thing, even if it is supported by your youthful indoctrinations.


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