You are browsing the forum as a guest. Please log in or register to access additional features.
Online reading group and book discussion forum
  HOME ABOUT BOOKS VIDEOS TRANSCRIPTS LINKS BLOGS DONATE CONTACT  

     Log in   Register 


BookTalk.org News
• If you are having trouble with logging into your account or making posts please know that we are working to resolve this issue. Please delete your temporary Internet files and cookies (at least those for our site) and stay tuned to see if that resolves the issue. If not our web designer believes he can find the code that is causing the issue.

Links & Resources

Community Rules & Tips
For Authors & Publishers
Link to our old forum
Our Amazon.com Statistics
Book Suggestions
Donations to BookTalk.org
BookTalk Forum Statistics
Games 170 FREE Games


Featured Videos

Robert Burton
"On Being Certain"


Robert Burton - On Being Certain

More Videos


Author Interviews

  

Featured Member Blogs

Ophelia's Blog
Lawrenceindestin's Blog
Penelope's Blog
Frank 013's Blog

- All Member Blogs
- Blog News


Chat Room

Enter the BookTalk.org Chat Room
Enter Chat Room

Show us where you live!
BookTalk.org Member Map

Donate & Support BookTalk.org

Please support our free community by making a credit card donation through our secure PayPal account. We appreciate and depend on the generosity of our members. Thank you!

See who supports us


Display Pagerank


John Wayne Hellman - The Ubber Guard


 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BookTalk.org Forum Index -> Archived Book Discussions 2006-2007 -> The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil - by Philip Zimbardo
Author Message
Mr. Pessimistic Mr. Pessimistic has been starred
Assistant Professor
Silver Contributor
Silver Contributor

Avatar



Joined: 16 Jun 2004

Posts: 3449
Gender: Male
Location: NJ - www.myspace.com/mrpessimistic
us.gif



PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: John Wayne Hellman - The Ubber Guard Reply with quote
From Ch. 9, pg 192:

Quote:
(Based on information from the Volunteer Background Form) In response to the question 'What do people like most about you?" Hellman radiated confidence: 'People at first admire me because of my talent and outgoing personality. Few know my real capabilities at human relationships.'

In response to the negative version, 'What do people like least about you?' Hellman gave us a insight into this young man's complex character and a hint of what is to come when he is given absolute power. He wrote, 'My impatience with stupidity, a total disregard for people whose life style I do not agree with. My exploitation of some people, my bluntness, my confidence.'


Now. The reason I single this ouot is to question the selection process and the assurance throughout the early chapters that Zimbardo has chosen stable, average individuals for this project. I am sorry, but if someone responded as Hellman did, how could anyone consider this person stable or suitable for this kind of experiment? Maybe I dont know psychological profiling, but the two answers Hellman gave are quite opposite and to me shows someone with a split personality!

I mean, is he someone with an "outgoing personality" that has implied good "capabilities at human relationships". Or is this person someone who is "impatient with [stupid people] and who disregards/exploits "people whose life style [he does] not agree with."

In my opinion...they should have seen the abuse he doled out coming.

Or is it just me?

Mr. P.
Back to top
JulianTheApostate JulianTheApostate has been starred
Sophomore





Joined: 23 Jul 2005

Posts: 289
Gender: Male



PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not surprising the questions "What do people like most about you?" and "What do people like least about you?" reveal different aspects of someone's personality. In other words, if you ask someone a variety of psychological questions, some of their responses will differ from an average healthy person.

When Zimbardo screened out unbalanced people, he still wanted a reasonable range of personality types. It's not like he interviewed hundreds of people and chose the 1% or were most together.
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    BookTalk.org Forum Index -> Archived Book Discussions 2006-2007 -> The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil - by Philip Zimbardo  
Page 1 of 1


 
Recent Topics
» Suggestions for our next official fiction discussion
by Grim on Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:32 pm

» Ch. 1: The Feeling of Knowing
by Grim on Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:16 pm

» Poem of the moment
by Grim on Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:21 pm

» How do Thoreau's words affect you personally?
by Thomas Hood on Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:27 pm

» Religion and Ecological Responsibility
by Dissident Heart on Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:56 pm

» Chapter 5. Solitude
by DWill on Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:53 pm

» What is Transcendentalism?
by WildCityWoman on Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:53 pm

» Chapter 4. Sounds
by Thomas Hood on Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:31 am

» Chapter 1. Economy
by DWill on Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:47 am

» Reasons 41 - 50
by Frank 013 on Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:16 am




BookTalk.org Suggests


Imagine No Superstition: The Power to Enjoy Life With No Guilt, No Shame, No Blame by Stephen Frederick

Scheisshaus Luck: Surviving the Unspeakable in Auschwitz and Dora by Pierre Berg with Brian Brock

Beyond Reasonable Doubt by Geoff J. Henley

Palace Council by Stephen L. Carter

How to Get Rich as a Televangelist or Faith Healer by Bill Wilson

Silver: My Own Tale As Written by Me with a Goodly Amount of Murder by Edward Chupack

Rising Above The Influence: A True Story about Alcohol, Drugs, and Recovery by Stephen J. Della Valle

Are You Famous? Touring America with Alaska's Fiddling Poet by Ken Waldman

Additional Book Suggestions


Poll
Have you ever parked in a handicapped spot?

Yes [4]
No [15]

You must login to vote


BookTalk.org is a book discussion group, also known as a reading group or book club. We read and talk about non-fiction books, as a group. Live author chats where book group members can interact with and interview authors are common. We often give away free books to our members in book giveaway contests. Our booktalks are open to everybody who enjoys booktalk.  Booktalk is a free online reading group that features quality book reviews, resources for readers and book lovers. Discussing books is our passion. Non-fiction chat, book forum, literature forum, or reading forum. Register a free book club account today. Suggest nonfiction books. Authors and publishers are welcome to plug their books or ask for an author chat or interview.

MAIN NAVIGATION

HOMEABOUTBOOKSTRANSCRIPTSOLD FORUMSLINKSBLOGSFAQDONATECONTACT

BOOKS WE HAVE DISCUSSED
• On Being Certain by Robert A. Burton • 50 reasons people give for believing in a god by Guy P. Harrison • Walden: Or, Life in the Woods by Henry David Thoreau • Exile and the Kingdom by Albert Camus • Our Inner Ape: A Leading Primatologist Explains Why We Are Who We Are by Frans de Waal • Your Inner Fish: A Journey into the 3.5-Billion-Year-History of the Human Body by Neil Shubin • No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy • The Age of American Unreason by Susan Jacoby • Ten Theories of Human Nature by Leslie Stevenson & David Haberman • Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad • The Stuff of Thought: Language as a Window Into Human Nature by Stephen Pinker • A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini • The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil by Philip Zimbardo • Responsibility and Judgment by Hannah Arendt • Interventions by Noam Chomsky • Godless in America by George A. Ricker • Religious Expression and the American Constitution by Franklyn S. Haiman • Deep Economy: The Wealth of Communities and the Durable Future by Phil McKibben • The God Delusion by Richard DawkinsThe Third Chimpanzee: The Evolution and Future of the Human Animal by Jared DiamondThe Woman in the Dunes by Abe KoboEvolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction by Eugenie C. ScottThe Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael PollanI, Claudius : From the Autobiography of Tiberius Claudius, Born 10 B.C., Murdered and Deified A.D. 54 by Robert GravesBreaking The Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon by Daniel C. DennettA Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East Peace by David FromkinThe Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey NiffeneggerThe End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason by Sam HarrisEnder's Game by Orson Scott CardThe Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark HaddonValue and Virtue in a Godless Universe by Erik J. WielenbergThe March by E. L DoctorowThe Ethical Brain by Michael GazzanigaFreethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan JacobyCollapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed by Jared DiamondThe Battle for God by Karen ArmstrongThe Future of Life by Edward O. WilsonWhat is Good? The Search for the Best Way to Live by A. C. GraylingCivilization and Its Enemies: The Next Stage of History by Lee HarrisPale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space by Carl SaganHow We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God by Michael ShermerLooking for Spinoza: Joy, Sorrow, and the Feeling Brain by Antonio DamasioLies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right by Al FrankenThe Red Queen: Sex and the Evolution of Human Nature by Matt RidleyThe Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature by Stephen PinkerUnweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder by Richard DawkinsAtheism: A Reader edited by S.T. JoshiGlobal Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From the Big Bang To the 21st Century by Howard BloomThe Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition into the Forces of Nature by Howard BloomGuns, Germs and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies by Jared DiamondThe Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl SaganBury My Heart at Wounded Knee: An Indian History of the American West by Dee BrownFuture Shock by Alvin Toffler

OTHER PAGES
Baloney Detection KitBanned Book ListBook OrdersMassimo Pigliucci Rationally SpeakingOnline Reading GroupTop 10 Atheism Books

Copyright © BookTalk.org 2002-2008. All rights reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group