Is Jesus God?

v_serkov · Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:24 am

18 And a ruler asked him, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" 19 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone

That means that Jesus didn't name himself as God.I wonder whose idea was to call Jesus God?

lady of shallot · Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:04 pm

pretty much the same people who invented God and Jesus. Mythological thinking comes from the same well.

Suzanne · Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:18 pm

Since God cannot have intercourse with a human female, and cannot impregnate a human female, God created Jesus from himself. Jesus does not have a mother, Jesus is a part of God, therefore, Jesus is God.

This is how it was explained to me by a catholic nun anyway.

Vishnu · Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:12 pm


	Suzanne wrote: Since God cannot ... and cannot...

Ah, so they admit that god is not omnipotent then.

Vishnu · Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:16 pm


	v_serkov wrote: I wonder whose idea was to call Jesus God?

This probably stems from how people interpreted John 10:30-34


	Quote: 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

And interesting line at the end there. So if this IS supposed to be taken to mean that Jesus is god, then by Jesus's own words(well, he's quoting Psalms actually), we are ALL gods as well.

Stuart Mason · Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:42 pm

Jesus was the Word(Logos).


	John 1:1-14 wrote: [1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men. [5] And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. [6] There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. [7] The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. [8] He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. [9] That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. [11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not. [12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: [13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. [14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

v_serkov · Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:05 am

The words of this nun conflicts with the dogma about pure conception.Who is holy Mary then?
As far as I know Chtistians call her mother of God.Moreover , as church says that Mary concieved by
the holy spirit,which is the same as God (the concept of the holy trinity).And how can we
interpret Jesus's words: "I'm not good ,because God is good alone" Doesn't that mean that Jesus
was saying about himself like not about God? .Or we can just miss these words and say,
Oh, it's not so important for our faith like priests do when I ask them something.
I also wonder how do they know what God can or cannot do .Does religious philosophy tell them?
But it's just philosophy nor more nor less

johnson1010 · Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:11 pm

well... "Jesus" couldn't have been "the word" because that word didn't exist 14.7* billion years ago.

v_serkov · Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:30 pm

They just do not know themselves how else to call Jesus

Suzanne · Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:01 pm


	Quote: You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Johnny or you can call me Sonny, or you can call me RayJay, or you can call me RJ… but ya doesn’t hafta call me Johnson

Bill Saluga

Stuart Mason · Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:07 pm


	v_serkov wrote: And how can we interpret Jesus's words: "I'm not good ,because God is good alone" Doesn't that mean that Jesus was saying about himself like not about God?

Jesus doesn't actually say he isn't good. He asks why they call him good when no one but God is good. That can be interpretted as Jesus asking them if, by calling him good, they understand that he's God.

johnson1010 · Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:46 am

Mental gymnastics.

Stick the landing!

This is a prime example of somebody trying to imply that if what's in the bible doesn't meet with the rhetoric they promote, then it is because we, as the lowly human readers aren't understanding it hard enough.

v_serkov · Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:25 am

Jesus was never either a god or real person.He is a myth!

Kevin · Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:37 pm


	Stuart Mason wrote: Jesus doesn't actually say he isn't good. He asks why they call him good when no one but God is good. That can be interpretted as Jesus asking them if, by calling him good, they understand that he's God.

Today the #1 reason why so many have a hard time with simple tasks of reading comprehension, when it comes to this subject anyway, is that they have built up constructs of the believer, or the nonbeliever, whichever one it is they are not, as being a cartoonishy idiotic character who is unlikely to have a valid point. In contrast, Jesus, as evidenced here, operates under an umbrella of optimism that serves to coax people into questioning beliefs and explaining actions. Predictably, it turned out to drive many of his day insane. Fanatics!

Stuart Mason · Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:57 am


	Kevin wrote: Today the #1 reason why so many have a hard time with simple tasks of reading comprehension, when it comes to this subject anyway, is that they have built up constructs of the believer, or the nonbeliever, whichever one it is they are not, as being a cartoonishy idiotic character who is unlikely to have a valid point. In contrast, Jesus, as evidenced here, operates under an umbrella of optimism that serves to coax people into questioning beliefs and explaining actions. Predictably, it turned out to drive many of his day insane. Fanatics!

That's one way of looking at it. I'd say it's a matter of context, really. Mark 10:18, as it's worded in the KJV, can be interpetted different ways. Taken by itself it would likely be read as Jesus saying he isn't God. But if read in the context of verses where Jesus is identified with God, then many can and do read it as Jesus probing the would-be follower's understanding of his divine nature. The wording lends itself to either interpretation, especially given Jesus' habit of speaking in deliberately cryptic language.

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