How do you think McCain will do as president?

Mr. Pessimistic · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject:

Hopefully we will not find out how President McCain will fare. Why are we counting out Obama?

The way I see it...people are getting sick of Republican rule. My long time Repuglican friend is voting democratic. This is amazing to me, as he was a stalwart for Bush and the Republican nonsense all his life.

Republican had their shot at total control and they fucked it all up. I cannot see the party holding on right now...but I also could not see how Bush could get elected twice either. I can go either way.

I dont know...but I have this sense that history will be made this election.

Mr. P.

DWill · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject:

I started this thread, and you can see which way I said the election would go. Possibly I suck as a prognosticator Sad

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DWill

Ophelia · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:14 am Post subject:

I am not counting out Obama, I'm just worried that the polls put the two candidates so close to each other when McCain is obviously not a good candidate.

Obama already has the unaninous votes of "the rest of the world", but my sources tell me those votes will again not reach the ballot box-- which is a shame, as I think we would return a reasonable candidate with a greater freequency.

I think age is a factor that should play against McCain. Miterrand and Chirac in France, and Reagan in the US, were much too old in their second terms (terms used to be 7 years in France).
I think there are things you can do in your seventies, for example continue to run a family business you've run all your life, or paint in you are an artist, and a lot of other things, but you should exclude: becoming the CEO of a big multinational for the first time, running for president, or running for the Olympics.
The way McCain moves and speaks look slow to me, and unsuitable to the tasks he will have to face.

Chris OConnor · Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:28 am Post subject:

Obama is too inexperienced for such a position. And he appears to make bad decisions on a regular basis.

Of course many nations want Obama as Commander in Chief of the United States military forces. I would too if I were Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any of the other sponsors of terrorism. There is very little chance that a pacifist like Obama will ever challenge terrorism directly.

If Russia continues their aggression in Europe who will bail out the former Soviet republics? Obama or McCain? Putin has plans to rejoin those republics. If you doubt this keep watching the news this week.

geo · Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:17 am Post subject:

Greg Neuman · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:54 am Post subject:

geo · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject:

DWill · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject:

geo · Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:

Greg Neuman · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:47 am Post subject:

A fringe candidate like Senator Obama must run to the center once he gets his party's nomination. Conversely, a relatively moderate candidate like Senator McCain must run to his base once he gets his party's nomination. We're seeing both in action in this election; a left wing Democrat moving a little towards the center-left, and a center-right Republican moving a little towards the right wing. Both are simply trying to shore up support among people who should be voting for them but aren't quite on board yet.

Still, this election has belonged to the Democrats since mid-2007 or so. At that time there was little progress in the Iraq war, and the effects of the housing bust were starting to be seen in other sectors of the economy. An unpopular war or economic woes always spell trouble for the incumbent party, but both together are pretty much a death sentence. It doesn't matter that one of those problems (Iraq) has since seen a dramatic reversal ... it doesn't even matter that McCain was was a driving force behind the strategy that caused the reversal. On the national scale, all that matters is the public perception: "Republican bad, Democrat good".

geo · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:48 am Post subject:

Dissident Heart · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:

McCain will be consistent with most, if not all, Presidents: serve the wealthiest (and tiniest) constituencies while bamboozling the majority through fantasies of military might and fears of homeland insecurities.

He will enable our worst delusions of national identities, playing a worn out tune of American exceptionalism at the expense of any rational, intelligent, or moral allegiences we will require to actually survive.

He will encourage our basest appetites by continuing the ignorance that consumption equals democracy: that the more stuff you have the freer you are...a growing economy equals a healthier planet kind of bullshit...the mantra of more is better with a slight maverick tinge.

He will bolster the lie that wealthy, white, militarist males are our only real suitable leaders...thereby making a farce of any pretentions to democracy we express or wage war to defend.

He may very well be the swan-song of the American Empire: the last hurrah and final belch.

Greg Neuman · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject:

Mr. Pessimistic · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject:


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