Online reading group and book discussion forum
  HOME FORUMS BLOGS BOOKS LINKS DONATE ADVERTISE CONTACT  
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Wed May 23, 2012 2:34 pm

Forum rules


Authors and publishers are welcome to tell us about their books ONLY if they are honest and reveal their relationship to the book and/or author. If you are here to promote a book you MUST state that you are the author, publisher or some other relation to the author or publisher or campaign to promote the book. Nothing short of complete disclosure will be tolerated.

All attempts to deceive BookTalk.org visitors and members with fake book reviews or endorsements make you, the author and the book appear unworthy of legitimate praise and will result in instant banning of all accounts, email addresses and IP addresses associated with the deception.

We take book suggestions, endorsement and reviews seriously on BookTalk.org and if you insult our intelligence with fake suggestions, endorsements and reviews we don't want you here and we won't consider your book as being worthy of our time. Efforts will be made to see that you and the book or books you're promoting are permanently banned from BookTalk.org.

If you would like to advertise your book click on the ADVERTISE link in the top green navigation bar and purchase and ad.



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 23 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book? 
Author Message
Years of membership
Getting Comfortable


Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post
Gender: None specified

Post Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
Like the title says, does it detract from the overall experience? Do you feel cheated if the guy doesn't get the girl, the bad guys don't get their comeuppance or the hero doesn't succeed on his quest? Or do you perhaps feel that an ending shouldn't be predetermined, and that having an author brave enough to challenge the trend makes the journey all the more exciting simply because you don't know how the story will end?

I've had this discussion a few times with fellow readers recently, so it will be interesting to hear what some of you think too.



Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:30 am
Profile Email
Years of membership
Getting Comfortable


Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5
Highscores: 1
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 1 time in 1 post
Gender: None specified
Country: France (fr)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
I think a good book experience is when the author surprises us...
Have you ever read The Elegance of The Hedgehog, by Muriel Barbery?
When I first read it, the ending did knock me out! How could she do this to me???
So yes, I really felt cheated. But after a while, I asked myself, had I been the author, would I have actually changed the end?
I don't know.
Either you remain in shock and unhappy (= you accept the ending, and meditate about the world), or you dream up another ending, and in this case, doors are left open for the readers' imagination.
The lack of a happy ending doesn't ruin a good story at all.



Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:39 am
Profile Email
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Better Thread Count than Your Best Linens

Silver Contributor

Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 625
Thanks: 42
Thanked: 69 times in 54 posts
Gender: None specified

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
Quote:
I think a good book experience is when the author surprises us...


I agree with this. And, often I find that too happy an ending, or too perfect an ending, can ruin an otherwise good book because it closes the door on imagination and speculation. A good book should leave you with a mixture of emotions.



Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:58 am
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Online
Upper Echelon 3rd Class

BookTalk.org Moderator

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2395
Images: 7
Location: Michigan
Thanks: 803
Thanked: 606 times in 438 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
i don't think all entertainment has to end with a smile and a walk into the sunset.

One of the best endings ever was the conclusion of Frank Darabont's "the Mist" based on a short story by Stephen King.

It was a soul-sucking ending. and it was perfect.


_________________
Have you tried that? Looking for answers?
Or have you been content to be terrified of a thing you know nothing about?

Nowhere in the Bible does it state that the truth would be revealed through logic and evidence.
-James Williamson MD

Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings.

In the absence of God, I found Man.
-Guillermo Del Torro

If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
-Derek Bok

You wouldn't like me when i'm angry... Because I always back up my rage with facts and documented sources.
-The Credible Hulk


Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:42 pm
Profile Personal album
User avatar
Years of membership
Not latency, or power shortage, nor bedtime shall keep me from my appointed screed


Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 48
Thanks: 13
Thanked: 14 times in 11 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
This is terrific question and, as a writer, I’ve contemplated it more than once.

Life doesn't always have happy endings. Why should we not expect art to imitate life? Soul-sucking endings help keep our own life in perspective.


_________________
Web Site http://www.fieldoforbs.com
Blog http://fieldoforbs.wordpress.com
Facebook Fan Page http://www.facebook.com/FieldofOrbs


Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:01 pm
Profile Email
Years of membership
Getting Comfortable


Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5
Highscores: 1
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 1 time in 1 post
Gender: None specified
Country: France (fr)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
Hi, Gregg,
I would like to know : as a writer, don't you feel the characters have a "life" of their own, and in the end, they may escape your plan?
Is the end of your novel just as you planned it at the beginning?



Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:16 am
Profile Email
User avatar
Years of membership
Master Debater

Silver Contributor

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 22
Images: 4
Highscores: 2
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 6 times in 5 posts
Gender: Female
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
I don't feel cheated by a strange, unexpected, or perhaps unpleasant ending. In fact, I enjoy a good jolt or twist. Maybe it's the masochist in me. :shock:



Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:30 am
Profile Email Personal album YIM
User avatar
Years of membership
Not latency, or power shortage, nor bedtime shall keep me from my appointed screed


Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 48
Thanks: 13
Thanked: 14 times in 11 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
NotaBene wrote:
I would like to know : as a writer, don't you feel the characters have a "life" of their own, and in the end, they may escape your plan?
Is the end of your novel just as you planned it at the beginning?


The characters definitely have a life of their own. That, I find, is the rush I get from writing. Sometimes, that can change the direction of the story. As the author, however, I have the final word. Wahahahaha.

Seriously, my published story, “Field of Orbs” began with only an ending. After developing a few concept short stories that set the framework, I turned them into chapters and followed the lives of the characters I created.

Characters must be real so they do surprising things when facing the challenges I create to test them, which eventually lead me to trash my original ending and formulate a concept that, while encompassing my original concept, went light-years beyond what I originally imagined.

So, did they escape my plan? That is hard to say. I would guess they actually shaped my plan by making me reevaluate my original concept. I really didn’t see the ending coming.


_________________
Web Site http://www.fieldoforbs.com
Blog http://fieldoforbs.wordpress.com
Facebook Fan Page http://www.facebook.com/FieldofOrbs


Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:08 am
Profile Email
Years of membership
Getting Comfortable


Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5
Highscores: 1
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 1 time in 1 post
Gender: None specified
Country: France (fr)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
I've just read this on Siri Hustvedt's website. Interesting, isn't it?

“And who among us would deny Jane Austen her happy endings or insist that Cary Grant and Irene Dunne should get back together at the end of The Awful Truth? There are tragedies and there are comedies, aren’t there? And they are often more the same than different, rather like men and women, if you ask me. A comedy depends on stopping the story at exactly the right moment.”



Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:35 pm
Profile Email
Years of membership
Pop up Book Fanatic


Joined: May 2011
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post
Gender: Male
Country: India (in)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
I don't feel lack of a happy ending ruins a book. The best part is the story is left open to conclusions. It provokes readers to think and put their imagination in it. As everyone interprets differently, it also leads to very healthy discussions.


_________________
Kundan
Stack your Rack
The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't read them. - Mark Twain


Wed May 18, 2011 5:36 am
Profile Email WWW
Years of membership
Getting Comfortable


Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 6
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post
Gender: None specified

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
It is interesting to consider the way a happy ending concludes a book, it is also in the same sense interesting to consider how a huge twist can change the way a reader feels at the end of a book. I have always thought that when a book ends with a happy ending it is successful and I was never a fan of a big twist to finish off a book. But then this past month I read Tim O'Brien's "The Things They Carried" and I completely changed my mind.

In the end of O'Brien's book he confesses that the stories he has confided in the reader are almost completely lies. He was a foot soldier during Vietnam but he did not experience nor meet anyone who experienced the things he wrote about. I found myself thinking, and even asking my class, does that make his book any less successful? Are the hauntings he experiences througout the book cheapened by the idea that he himself did not kill any men? Do we not still feel completely connected to the characters? Does it matter that the events are made up?

I think that his book is amazing and I still find myself thinking back on the characters and the things they experienced. I made connections with characters that I was under the impression were real, and when I realized they were fictional I was shocked initially. And then I realized that the ending of this particular book did not take anything away from the experience I had while reading it!



Wed May 18, 2011 2:32 pm
Profile Email
User avatar
Pop up Book Fanatic


Joined: May 2011
Posts: 14
Thanks: 8
Thanked: 1 time in 1 post
Gender: Female
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
No, I don't think that an unhappy ending ruins a good book. Sometimes a tragedy makes a story that much better, and sometimes I find that a happy ending that doesn't feel right leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And sometimes, bittersweet is just enough.


_________________
When people walk away from you, let them go. Your destiny is never tied to anyone who leaves you, and it doesn't mean they are bad people. It just means that their part in your story is over. - Tony McCollum


Tue May 31, 2011 1:02 am
Profile Email WWW
Years of membership
Float like a butterfly, post like a bee!


Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 58
Location: Philadelphia
Thanks: 3
Thanked: 7 times in 7 posts
Gender: Female
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
Although I am not prepared to deal with the specific details at this moment, I actually think Dickens' original ending for Great Expectations makes it one of his greatest novels, and he was wrong to take the advice from his friends to change it.


_________________
Il mondo sta bene cosi com'e.
--Giordano Bruno


Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:32 pm
Profile Email WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membership
Doctorate

Gold Contributor

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 503
Highscores: 34
Thanks: 85
Thanked: 46 times in 39 posts
Gender: Female
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
I think that the ending has to be a good place to stop. Happy sad or tragic works for me. Although like most, I like a happy ending. Sometimes you would have to ruin a perfectly good story to make the ending happy.

In one series of books I read book two was apparently supposed to be the end, but it was too much material for a single book so they split it into books two and three. Usually I am not so discerning a reader to notice, but in this case it was almost like they just picked the end of the sentence closest to the middle...THAT ruined that book for me and I almost didn't read the third book.


_________________
~froglipz~

"I'm not insane, my mother had me tested"

Si vis pacem, para bellum: If you wish for peace, prepare for war.


Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:33 pm
Profile Email
User avatar
Not latency, or power shortage, nor bedtime shall keep me from my appointed screed


Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 47
Location: Poznań
Thanks: 6
Thanked: 12 times in 9 posts
Gender: Female
Country: Poland (pl)

Post Re: Does the lack of a happy ending ruin an otherwise good book?
For me a happy ending is what usually ruins a book. I think: "And that's it? Come on, it can't be THAT simple!?!"
I like open endings, as they leave more room for imagination.


_________________
"From childhood's hour I have not been as others were
I have not seen as others saw
I could not bring my passions from a common spring
From the same source I have not taken my sorrow
I could not awake my heart to joy at the same tone
And all I loved - I loved alone"

E.A.Poe


Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:57 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 23 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:


Celebrating 10 Years Online!

BookTalk.org Links 
Forum Rules & Tips
Frequently Asked Questions
BBCode Explained
Info for Authors & Publishers
Featured Book Suggestions
Author Interview Transcripts
Be a Book Discussion Leader!
    

Love to talk about books but don't have time for our book discussion forums? For casual book talk join us on Facebook.

Support BookTalk.org 
BookTalk.org is being upgraded to a totally new design. This upgrade is expensive. Any support would be VERY helpful! See who supports us.
Make a donation

PEOPLE PAYING FOR OUR UPGRADE:

• afv - $10 May
• LevV - $50 March
• Dexter - $10 March
• supernova38 - $25 March
• Oblivion - $20 March
• jheimlich - $20 February
• Robert Tulip - $50 February
• giselle - $50 January


Featured Books

Recent Blogging 

WORMING TABLETS AND WESTFIELD

24th March

Children here need worming regularly, and  I think I need to buy more worming tablets, so while my friends sit on the beach, I have to catch bush taxis up to the… more

Posted: 17 days ago
by heledd

TUESDAY 20TH MARCH

The children have a long way to walk to the nearest primary school. At the moment they are in temporary accommodation, with volunteer teachers. There is community land available, a… more

Posted: 19 days ago
by heledd

The 12th Disciple $3.99 (USD) on Kindle...

The price of The 12th Disciple has been updated to $3.99 for Kindle readers. The book is still available for free to borrow for Amazon Prime members.  To be competitive, and s… more

Posted: 22 days ago
by 12th disciple

The 12th Disciple reviews...

The 12th Disciple has been reviewed by two different people on Amazon. They purchased the Kindle edition; one in the US, one in the UK. One review was 5-stars (US) and the oth… more

Posted: 31 days ago
by 12th disciple

The Stages In and Out of Life

From the book; The Joys of Live Alchemy

Every human being experiences distinct stages in their lives. First, birth... Second, learning to walk and talk…Third, learning the rule… more

Posted: 38 days ago
by michaellevys

Hello world!

Welcome to BookTalk.org Blogs. This is your first post. Edit or delete it, then start blogging!

See those links at the very top of the page? To get into your control panel for… more

Posted: 38 days ago
by michaellevys

Cutting Truths - Book Review

This review is from: Cutting Truths: Fifty Enlightening Slices of Life (Paperback) 178 pages ... 5.0 out of 5 stars     Sleeper Cells Awaken,

By Julie Clayton… more

Posted: 39 days ago
by michaellevys

Nonviolence Quotes

From Gandhi:

“Anger is the enemy of nonviolence and pride is the monster that swallows it up.”

“An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind.”

“I have nothing ne… more

Posted: 43 days ago
by jamessanderson

Harry Potter Enthusiast

I'd like to say I've been reading Harry Potter since the day the world renown series appeared on the scene.  Unfortunately, the truth is I began reading Harry Potter… more

Posted: 45 days ago
by kinse1na

Good Friday, Better Saturday, Blessed Sunday

Easter teaches many of us the importance of redemption and resurrection. Regardless of what faith people follow, the story of Jesus Christ has been told in many languages in many c… more

Posted: 46 days ago
by 12th disciple

Let The Blogging Begin!

Our Book Talk will begin on Wednesday, May 2nd. I look forward to hearing about your learning and classroom experiences with Number Talks as it all unfolds...

Posted: 51 days ago
by msbeth

MONDAY 12TH MARCH. COMMONWEALTH DAY

Today is Commonwealth Day. All the children come in their various ethnic clothes and bring food traditional to their groups.

We have Fula, Mandinka, Manjargo, Wollof , Jola… more

Posted: 52 days ago
by heledd

CHRISTIAN NONVIOLENCE

NONOPPOSITIONAL NONVIOLENCE “The minute you conquer the fear of death, at that moment you are free. I submit to you that if a man hasn’t discovered something that he will die f… more

Posted: 53 days ago
by jamessanderson

FEBRUARY 26TH, SUNDAY

Yesterday, when I went to feed Jeni the donkey, I noticed swarms of bees entering Ebrima’s house through the cracks in the door. We both had a look, but he didn’t open his door… more

Posted: 53 days ago
by heledd

Exciting News...Now You Can Order Blessings of the Father - Book One on sale at only $4.98 on B&N.com!

Hello fellow followers of the written word:

I'm pleased to tell you that there is finally a downloadable epub version for Book One of my saga; Blessings of the Father … more

Posted: 78 days ago
by mitchreed

What Number Talks Is All About

Whether you want to implement number talks but are unsure of how to begin or have experience but want more guidance in crafting purposeful problems, this dynamic multimedia resourc… more

Posted: 79 days ago
by msbeth

Feeling Entitled Is Not Always A Bad Thing

Do you feel entitled? For years I have listened to and, in some instances, complained that some people in America feel entitled. For years I have watched as these people are portra… more

Posted: 79 days ago
by life is a business

Free Kindle promotion very successful for The 12th Disciple

On Fat Tuesday and Ash Wednesday of 2012, The 12th Disciple was free to Kindle users on both days. In all, about 550 worldwide Kindle users downloaded a copy of the book.

The 12… more

Posted: 80 days ago
by 12th disciple

Sacred Are the Brave

‘Sacred Are the Brave’ a collection of short stories about the nonviolent revolutions 1986-1989 is now available in Kindle. Each of the nine stories has characters who are just … more

Posted: 83 days ago
by jamessanderson

The Weekend Trippers

The Weekend Trippers’ is the true story of Rfn Ted Taylor and his part in the heroic last stand in Calais May 1940. The Weekend Trippers is based on Ted’s diaries written at the… more

Posted: 86 days ago
by carolemct






BookTalk.org Chat Room 
Enter the BookTalk.org Chat Room

Enter our Chat [0]

Chat Room Always Open!

Tell your friends when to meet you
in the BookTalk.org Chat Room.

If you enjoy business bestsellers and would like to expand your business knowledge check out the quality book summaries offered by the world's leading book summary company.






BookTalk.org is a free book discussion group or online reading group or book club. We read and talk about both fiction and non-fiction books as a group. We host live author chats where booktalk members can interact with and interview authors. We give away free books to our members in book giveaway contests. Our booktalks are open to everybody who enjoys talking about books. Our book forums include book reviews, author interviews and book resources for readers and book lovers. Discussing books is our passion. We're a literature forum, or reading forum. Register a free book club account today! Suggest nonfiction and fiction books. Authors and publishers are welcome to advertise their books or ask for an author chat or author interview.


Navigation 
MAIN NAVIGATION

HOMEFORUMSBOOKSTRANSCRIPTSOLD FORUMSADVERTISELINKSBLOGSFAQDONATETERMS OF USEPRIVACY POLICY

BOOK FORUMS FOR ALL BOOKS WE HAVE DISCUSSED
Moby Dick: or, the Whale by Herman MelvilleA Visit from the Goon Squad by Jennifer EganLost Memory of Skin: A Novel by Russell BanksThe Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. KuhnHobbes: Leviathan by Thomas HobbesThe House of the Spirits - by Isabel AllendeArguably: Essays by Christopher HitchensThe Falls: A Novel (P.S.) by Joyce Carol OatesChrist in Egypt by D.M. MurdockThe Glass Bead Game: A Novel by Hermann HesseA Devil's Chaplain by Richard DawkinsThe Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph CampbellThe Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor DostoyevskyThe Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark TwainThe Moral Landscape by Sam HarrisThe Decameron by Giovanni BoccaccioThe Road by Cormac McCarthyThe Grand Design by Stephen HawkingThe Evolution of God by Robert WrightThe Tin Drum by Gunter GrassGood Omens by Neil GaimanPredictably Irrational by Dan ArielyThe Wind-Up Bird Chronicle: A Novel by Haruki MurakamiALONE: Orphaned on the Ocean by Richard Logan & Tere Duperrault FassbenderDon Quixote by Miguel De CervantesMusicophilia by Oliver SacksDiary of a Madman and Other Stories by Nikolai GogolThe Passion of the Western Mind by Richard TarnasThe Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le GuinThe Genius of the Beast by Howard BloomAlice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll Empire of Illusion by Chris HedgesThe Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner The Extended Phenotype by Richard DawkinsSmoke and Mirrors by Neil GaimanThe Selfish Gene by Richard DawkinsWhen Good Thinking Goes Bad by Todd C. RinioloHouse of Leaves by Mark Z. DanielewskiAmerican Gods: A Novel by Neil GaimanPrimates and Philosophers by Frans de WaalThe Enormous Room by E.E. CummingsThe Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar WildeGod Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher HitchensThe Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco Dreams From My Father by Barack Obama Paradise Lost by John Milton Bad Money by Kevin PhillipsThe Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson BurnettGodless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists by Dan BarkerThe Things They Carried by Tim O'BrienThe Limits of Power by Andrew BacevichLolita by Vladimir NabokovOrlando by Virginia Woolf On Being Certain by Robert A. Burton50 reasons people give for believing in a god by Guy P. HarrisonWalden: Or, Life in the Woods by Henry David ThoreauExile and the Kingdom by Albert CamusOur Inner Ape by Frans de WaalYour Inner Fish by Neil ShubinNo Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthyThe Age of American Unreason by Susan JacobyTen Theories of Human Nature by Leslie Stevenson & David HabermanHeart of Darkness by Joseph ConradThe Stuff of Thought by Stephen PinkerA Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled HosseiniThe Lucifer Effect by Philip ZimbardoResponsibility and Judgment by Hannah ArendtInterventions by Noam ChomskyGodless in America by George A. RickerReligious Expression and the American Constitution by Franklyn S. HaimanDeep Economy by Phil McKibbenThe God Delusion by Richard DawkinsThe Third Chimpanzee by Jared DiamondThe Woman in the Dunes by Abe KoboEvolution vs. Creationism by Eugenie C. ScottThe Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael PollanI, Claudius by Robert GravesBreaking The Spell by Daniel C. DennettA Peace to End All Peace by David FromkinThe Time Traveler's Wife by Audrey NiffeneggerThe End of Faith by Sam HarrisEnder's Game by Orson Scott CardThe Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark HaddonValue and Virtue in a Godless Universe by Erik J. WielenbergThe March by E. L DoctorowThe Ethical Brain by Michael GazzanigaFreethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan JacobyCollapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed by Jared DiamondThe Battle for God by Karen ArmstrongThe Future of Life by Edward O. WilsonWhat is Good? by A. C. GraylingCivilization and Its Enemies by Lee HarrisPale Blue Dot by Carl SaganHow We Believe: Science, Skepticism, and the Search for God by Michael ShermerLooking for Spinoza by Antonio DamasioLies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them by Al FrankenThe Red Queen by Matt RidleyThe Blank Slate by Stephen PinkerUnweaving the Rainbow by Richard DawkinsAtheism: A Reader edited by S.T. JoshiGlobal Brain by Howard BloomThe Lucifer Principle by Howard BloomGuns, Germs and Steel by Jared DiamondThe Demon-Haunted World by Carl SaganBury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee BrownFuture Shock by Alvin Toffler

OTHER PAGES WORTH EXPLORING
Banned Book ListOur Amazon.com SalesMassimo Pigliucci Rationally SpeakingOnline Reading GroupTop 10 Atheism BooksFACTS Book Selections

cron
Copyright © BookTalk.org 2002-2011. All rights reserved.
Website developed by MidnightCoder.ca
Display Pagerank