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Chris OConnor BookTalk.org Hall of Fame Joined: May 2002 Posts: 12132 Images: 0 Location: Florida Highscores: 145 Thanks: 856 Thanked: 378 times in 300 posts Gender: Country:	Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freethought This thread is for discussing Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freethought. You can post within this framework or create your own threads.
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:09 pm

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Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho

p158

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not only because he (Ingersoll) fought for intellectual and spiritual liberty but because his principles required the sacrifice of his political ambitions.

Ahhh, even then. ::74

Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:03 am


ginof Freshman Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 212 Location: San Francisco, CA Thanks: 0 Thanked: 1 time in 1 post Gender:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho the quotes from Ingersoll's speaches (p173) are quite beautiful. I'm going to have to read some of his writings.
Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:05 am


Mr. Pessimistic Tenured Professor Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: NJ Thanks: 1 Thanked: 5 times in 5 posts Gender: Country:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho There is not much out there. The library around here has nothing...the librarian did not even know who he was. Sad. He was a great speaker, judging from his written speeches. Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P. The pain in hell has two sides. The kind you can touch with your hand; the kind you can feel in your heart...Scorsese's "Mean Streets" I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper
Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:25 am


JulianTheApostate Masters Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 450 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Thanks: 5 Thanked: 43 times in 34 posts Gender:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho Well, I hadn't heard of Ingersoll before reading this book.
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:37 pm


Mr. Pessimistic Tenured Professor Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: NJ Thanks: 1 Thanked: 5 times in 5 posts Gender: Country:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho I guess I am more upset that there are no books of his or about him available at the libraries around here...even Paine is kinda scarce. Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P. The pain in hell has two sides. The kind you can touch with your hand; the kind you can feel in your heart...Scorsese's "Mean Streets" I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper
Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:28 pm


GOD defiles Reason Sophomore Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 272 Thanks: 0 Thanked: 0 time in 0 post Gender:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho Here's some material I found online from Ingersoll: www.infidels.org/library/...ndex.shtml
Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:55 am


Mr. Pessimistic Tenured Professor Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: NJ Thanks: 1 Thanked: 5 times in 5 posts Gender: Country:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho Yes...I saw that info...I also found a book that collects his major speeches on EBAY. I plan on updating my mrpessimistic website with info and links and anything on people who have promoted atheism and freethought in the past. Just a small contribution, but if more people promote the ideals we hold dear, the more our message will spread. Every little bit helps. Mr. P. Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P. The pain in hell has two sides. The kind you can touch with your hand; the kind you can feel in your heart...Scorsese's "Mean Streets" I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper
Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:46 am


GOD defiles Reason Sophomore Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 272 Thanks: 0 Thanked: 0 time in 0 post Gender:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho I think this country has it's priorities somewhat fucked when we have a College named after a William Jennings Bryan, but not a College named after Robert G. Ingersoll. I didn't know much about this man either until reading this chapter. Where are the successors to men like him? Nice piece you wrote for the home page, Mr P. I know there are men and women who share Ingersoll's sentiment and dreams. The one main ingredient they do not share with Ingersoll is his courage. Fear is keeping them in the closet. And it's going to have to take something extraordinary for one or more of them to emerge.
Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:47 am


Mr. Pessimistic Tenured Professor Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: NJ Thanks: 1 Thanked: 5 times in 5 posts Gender: Country:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho *Quote:* Nice piece you wrote for the home page, Mr P. Hey thanks! It came from the heart...and I think it is very true. *Quote:* Fear is keeping them in the closet. Indeed! We need to find the courage to promote our views...for they are the best hope for humanity, IMHO. This is why I try NOT to back down from the insanity known as religious extremism. I am all well and good with tolerating others beliefs...just keep them in your pocket. Unfortunately for those of faith, a secular mode of society is the only 'neutral' way to live and thus is the best way to go. Mr. P. The one thing of which I am positive is that there is much of which to be negative - Mr. P. The pain in hell has two sides. The kind you can touch with your hand; the kind you can feel in your heart...Scorsese's "Mean Streets" I came to kick ass and chew Bubble Gum...and I am all out of Bubble Gum - They Live, Roddy Piper
Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:52 am


ginof Freshman Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 212 Location: San Francisco, CA Thanks: 0 Thanked: 1 time in 1 post Gender:	Re: Ch. 6 - The Great Agnostic and the Golden Age of Freetho I see that Mr. P agrees with you, but I'm not 100% convinced that it is fear. There are plenty of people (us for example) who do speak out. However, our message is sort of 'drowned out' by the overwhelming flood of ideas from the other direction. I don't know too many who are afraid to speak their mind, but I know many similarly minded folks who think that these are matters of conciense and prostelitising the idea is not how to approach it. It becomes the ancient rome issue we read about where the christians were loud enough to drown out the previous years of polytheism. It seems we might be in a similar spiral.
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